UK General Discussion

[Leftbehind]

Fantastic, we share a 0/10 on commonality. Feels awkward when I have to agree with a Thatcherite.

[YL]

A group of particularly right-wing Tory MPs (with a curious concentration of constituencies in Northamptonshire) proposed an "alternative Queen's Speech".  It's mostly fairly predictable stuff: leave the EU (which seems to be in there twice, just in case), bring back the death penalty, reintroduce conscription, various climate change denial stuff.  They also want to rename the August Bank Holiday after a certain former Prime Minister who died recently.

[Leftbehind]

Plus, of course, doing away with the BBC. Makes me laugh how many proposing re-introducing national service conveniently never had to do it themselves.

[Supersonic]

Fantastic, we share a 0/10 on commonality. Feels awkward when I have to agree with a Thatcherite.

The feeling is the same when I have to agree with a big-s Socialist.

[freefair]

Plus, of course, doing away with the BBC. Makes me laugh how many proposing re-introducing national service conveniently never had to do it themselves.

I think conscription into a sort of national guard/psuedo military institution would be a fitting punishment for petty crime, antisocial behavior, or descriptiveness in state education.

[Leftbehind]

How liberal of you...

[You kip if you want to...]

Anyone fancy telling me why he has never like this between the years 2007 and 2010?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqp-E3kAFqQ

[Leftbehind]

I doubt any amount of charisma or good speech-making could've saved Brown - as his economic legacy came crashing down on him (there's a reason why incumbents have been dropping like flies).

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I doubt any amount of charisma or good speech-making could've saved Brown - as his economic legacy came crashing down on him (there's a reason why incumbents have been dropping like flies).

It probably could've at least evened out the tide. From what I remember in 2010, Brown was incredibly lacking in charisma and looked like he was being run out of office no matter what. A little bit of strength and energy in Labour at the time may have lead to us having a Lab-Lib coalition gov right now. (Now that would be a funny scenario to watch)

[You kip if you want to...]

While 2010 was a nice election to lose, there's nothing fun about opposition.

[Insula Dei]

I seem to recall people being very enthusiastic about Brown's Citizens UK speech (?) a couple of day before the 2010 election.

[You kip if you want to...]

I seem to recall people being very enthusiastic about Brown's Citizens UK speech (?) a couple of day before the 2010 election.

Yeah, he went out on a high in the last week (post-Duffy) to be fair.

[Supersonic]

I seem to recall people being very enthusiastic about Brown's Citizens UK speech (?) a couple of day before the 2010 election.

Yes, that was a very good speech. Credit where it's due.

[You kip if you want to...]

I seem to recall people being very enthusiastic about Brown's Citizens UK speech (?) a couple of day before the 2010 election.

Yes, that was a very good speech. Credit where it's due.

He even handled the hecklers amazingly.

[Leftbehind]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23025311

6-month jail sentence (40% of what Stuart Hall is currently serving after raping and assaulting over a dozen children) and deportation (never mind his family) for disrupting some toff boat race. Such a shower of sh**t in charge.

[freefair]

disrupting some toff boat race

FGS, Oxbridge aren't toff institutions. You clearly either have next to no idea about them or you've got a massive chip on your shoulder about not having gone to them. I never even applied to them, and a clearly of a working class background, yet I have total admiration for those outstanding institutions. Two class friends have offers for Oxford and they are the most hardworking grounded lads I know.

[Leftbehind]

disrupting some toff boat race

FFS, Oxbridge aren't toff institutions, you clearly either have no idea about them or you've got a massive chip on your shoulder about not having gone to them. I never even applied to them, and am objectively of the working class,  but I have little but admiration for those institutions. Two class friends have offers for Oxford and they are the most hardworking grounded lads I know.

LOL Only a Tory would contest what is demonstrably true. Your two friends may go toward the 11/12% of working class students attending there - not the 88-89% middle-class to upper.

[Hifly]

disrupting some toff boat race

FFS, Oxbridge aren't toff institutions, you clearly either have no idea about them or you've got a massive chip on your shoulder about not having gone to them. I never even applied to them, and am objectively of the working class,  but I have little but admiration for those institutions. Two class friends have offers for Oxford and they are the most hardworking grounded lads I know.

LOL Only a Tory would contest what is demonstrably true. Your two friends may go toward the 11/12% of working class students attending there - not the 88-89% middle-class to upper.

You sound as if you are envious of others who don't lack the intellectual capacity to get into those universities.

[Leftbehind]

Better than sounding like you think middle and upper class students are inherently brighter than their working class counterpart.

[You kip if you want to...]

This surely can't do Plaid any good.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-23048194

[freefair]

Your two friends may go toward the 11/12% of working class students attending there - not the 88-89% middle-class to upper.

Well, one of them is what could be called upper-lower-middle class, but he's still a totally ordinary, non-posh person...

[Peter the Lefty]

Awesome Mitchell rant re Tories, awfulness, austerity, gay-marriage etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4xBbcCpfDc

I literally fell on the floor laughing.

[afleitch]

Interesting survey of young people;

http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/jgdvn3vm4b/YG-Archive-Pol-Sun-results-190613-youth-survey.pdf

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Daniel Kawczynski (Con, Shrewsbury & Atcham) has come out as bisexual.

[Leftbehind]

All anyone needs to know about Daniel Kawczynski is he's a f**king horrible bastard.