UK General Discussion

[MaxQue]

The purpose of Labour?

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As found on the back of my membership card.

They bothered to write something? NDP only wrote their name, my name and the month I renew.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It's the 'new' Clause IV.

[freefair]

I still think they should replace "Democratic Socialist" with "Social-Democratic". Those two words put it theoretically outside of the global mainstream, and give false hope to people who needn't bother.  They may be similar, but what they imply is very different.

[Supersonic]

Labour has not paid Corporation Tax (paywall).

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article3825577.ece

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I still think they should replace "Democratic Socialist" with "Social-Democratic". Those two words put it theoretically outside of the global mainstream, and give false hope to people who needn't bother.  They may be similar, but what they imply is very different.

The words have traditionally meant exactly the same thing in a British context; the powerful right-wing semi-grassroots organisation of the 1960s was called the Campaign for Democratic Socialism, etc.

[Leftbehind]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23450435

Interesting that despite the post-coalition upturn in Labour membership they weren't far off matching the Liberal's 6k drop last year. Can't say it's too surprising, mind.

[minionofmidas]

The temperature at present is fundamentally uncivilised.

Under 33? In july? I agree. Such uncivilied coolness should be banned.

They're expecting up to 40 degrees in the Lausitz tomorrow.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jul/30/bbc-welfare-reforms-impartiality-john-humphrys

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Bizarre display of comic evil from Tory peer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23505723

[freefair]

Bizarre display of comic evil from Tory peer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23505723

Hardly- I listened to what he said and he seemed to be referring to the moorlands of Northumbria and Durham, not to the settlements, though that itself would hardly be inaccurate in some cases.
A Tory asking the government to focus on building Industry away from the overcrowded south seems to me the opposite of evil- infact it seems like an attempt to reconcile those areas with the Conservatives and compensate for the effects of deindustrialization and the end of mining.
context- I' strongly agree with Shale Gas and Fracking, so think that we should be doing it everywhere, Southern or not.

[Serenity Now]

Bizarre display of comic evil from Tory peer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23505723

This is beyond satire.

[You kip if you want to...]

[Hifly]

This isn't twitter here.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Doreen Lawrence is to become a Labour Peer.

[Silent Hunter]

Doreen Lawrence is to become a Labour Peer.

Glad to hear it - she deserves it.

[You kip if you want to...]

For anyone who loves to giggle at Young Tories: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/secondaryeducation/10216388/Its-no-wonder-none-of-my-friends-are-teenage-Tories.html

I did the same syllabus as her and, guess what, she's telling a few porkies here/is over defensive.

[MaxQue]

Just a right-winger unable to deal with the next generation being very left-wing.

[Phony Moderate]

She bears a striking resemblance to a certain Granthamian.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Most of the other people who were named as new Peers yesterday, however, pretty clearly bought their peerages in the traditional manner.

[Leftbehind]

Most of the other people who were named as new Peers yesterday, however, pretty clearly bought their peerages in the traditional manner.

Abolish the f**king thing.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

There is a case for that, but wrt this kind of petty (legal) corruption, well, such people would only find another means of compensation for their generous donations. But there's no doubt that the government is appointing too many peers and using increasingly absurd excuses for doing so.

[minionofmidas]

There is a case for that, but wrt this kind of petty (legal) corruption, well, such people would only find another means of compensation for their generous donations.

More dangerous ones, no doubt.

Whatever else needs to be said about the National Government, at least they understand what the House of Lords is for. I approve.

[Supersonic]

Most of the other people who were named as new Peers yesterday, however, pretty clearly bought their peerages in the traditional manner.

Abolish the f**king thing.

Bring back the Hereditary Peers.

[You kip if you want to...]

Jim Messina (Obama campaign manager) has been hired by the Tories.

Not really impressed that Labour are sitting back watching the Tories throw money at the world's best people (Crosby may be a disgusting person, but he does the job), and Labour has nobody. Ed should take their Messina and raise them an Axelrod!

[Leftbehind]

Most of the other people who were named as new Peers yesterday, however, pretty clearly bought their peerages in the traditional manner.

Abolish the f**king thing.

Bring back the Hereditary Peers.

The more the merrier - to be abolished.