UK General Discussion

[k-onmmunist]

Oh great. That's my MP by the way guys. Hazel Grove. Wonderful.

[k-onmmunist]

Nick Clegg on socialists and tax:

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(Via the Guardian's live blog.)

Nothing like a good caricature, eh?

What a moron. Wish he'd just join the Tories and get it over with.

[k-onmmunist]

I wish that Clegg and Cameron would create a new Liberal-Conservative party, and the super-right-wing-crazies would leave the Tories, and the clearly-socialist-left-wingers would leave the LibDems, and thus create a new right of centre party.

What socialist left wingers?

[k-onmmunist]

There was a sense that it was an attack on Britain. The people of the Falklands are British in origin and were occupied by a fascist dictatorship. The Argentines only want it back because of the oil, they could give a toss about the people of the Falklands or self determination.

[k-onmmunist]

I wish that Clegg and Cameron would create a new Liberal-Conservative party, and the super-right-wing-crazies would leave the Tories, and the clearly-socialist-left-wingers would leave the LibDems, and thus create a new right of centre party.

What socialist left wingers?

And David Cameron is fairly moderate compared to his party? What is this, 2007?

I think he is, actually.  That says more about the rest of his party than it does about him, mind.

Well, he's in the same party as Dan Hannan, Iain Duncan Smith, Liam Fox, Peter Bone and other far-rightist loons, so I suppose you could say he's moderate in that sense.

[k-onmmunist]

I dont understand how anyone can support the argentine position.

This. It would be like supporting Japan annexing Manchuria.

[k-onmmunist]

Seriously wondering who approves of Shinyhead at this point.

[k-onmmunist]

Just nationalize all the schools... far easier solution.

[k-onmmunist]

Only because they want to interfere in people's personal lives, apparently.

[k-onmmunist]

making the poor pay for the recession the rich caused - i do love this country!

[k-onmmunist]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/10/gay-marriage-john-major-move-on-and-accept_n_2269622.html

John Major endorses gay marriage.

[k-onmmunist]

it's easy to indicate ukip in a poll, but when push comes to shove, most of them are going to vote tory. the best ukip can do is act as a pressure group on the other parties towards europe, something i hope they're successful in.

[k-onmmunist]

Which seats could UKIP have a realistic chance in 2015 anyway?

Maybe win with 25% in some 4-way marginal in the South-West?

0 seats. at most they'll do damage to the tories by drawing their votes away.

[k-onmmunist]

I'd assume their best chance would be wherever Farage is standing.

farage has a credibility that other members of the party don't. one of my friends who claims to be a moderate tory pointed out that farage is popular for his libertarian image and his general anti-government pro-populist approach, but the party as a whole isn't like that - you have idiots like helmer and mckenzie who make extremely homophobic comments and make ukip look like tories on crack.

there's also the fact that ukip's popularity is mainly hinged on them maintaining a one issue style type of politics, which becomes increasingly difficult as you become a larger party. many ukip policies, such as the flat tax, would be deeply unpopular with the public. but the image of ukip is one of a party which is determined to fight european centralization, and it's that which wins them votes.

[k-onmmunist]

i can't see canada 1993 happening here. the british are far too forgiving of bad governments.

[k-onmmunist]

comments sections on british political articles are almost always worth avoiding, due to the sheer misanthropy any reasonable person will develop from reading them.

[k-onmmunist]

didn't peter bone (aka sven goran eriksson) compare the nhs to stalinism?

this country has pretty much become america with a monarchy. so in other words, the worst thing ever.

[k-onmmunist]

doesn't change the fact it was a silly and irrelevant comment.

[k-onmmunist]

Things relating to a certain issue have taken a turn for the surreal:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/dec/13/anglican-church-protests-gay-marriage-ban

this is unbelievable. i've never seen such incompetence, even from this government.