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« on: January 26, 2012, 08:54:34 PM »

Great, another referendum that will end up a narrow loss and disappointment.

I doubt it at this point. New Jersey is quickly becoming fairly solid in support for gay marriage.
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 01:38:20 PM »

Great, another referendum that will end up a narrow loss and disappointment.

I doubt it at this point. New Jersey is quickly becoming fairly solid in support for gay marriage.

Until the ads about how their children will learn how to have gay sex start airing. Not in my school!

My hope would be that the side of the angels will actually bother to run some decent advertising, too. Obviously the krazens and other such creepy-crawlies will turn out against this, but they're not the only people in the state, thank God.
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 03:18:19 AM »

How is this remotely insulting to anybody? The phrase 'and Religious Exemption' is even in the title of the bill, specifically for the benefit of people who follow those benighted churches that still adhere to ungodly gender determinism.

This is not a wedge issue and it is not even really a social issue. It properly belongs to the province of rights and Constitutional law.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 10:48:50 PM »
« Edited: January 29, 2012, 10:57:23 PM by Nathan »

How is this remotely insulting to anybody? The phrase 'and Religious Exemption' is even in the title of the bill, specifically for the benefit of people who follow those benighted churches that still adhere to ungodly gender determinism.

This is not a wedge issue and it is not even really a social issue. It properly belongs to the province of rights and Constitutional law.

Dov Hikind already answered that question.

I don't care about Dov Hikind's opinion.

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In a way that violates the Federal Constitution on its face (not to mention human rights, the Kingdom of God, and the basic decency of kindness) no matter how many elderly and confused or young and spite-filled people say otherwise, yes they have. But you don't seem to care about that as long as you and yours can keep the icky Other people out of your perfect world with its tiny problems, and I suppose I should stop expecting you to. But it is very like me always to tilt against windmills, so once more I'd like to say: Stop taking advantage of other people's genuine if confused and frightened feelings to further your own petty hatreds and amoral spite. Not only will it make things better for everybody else, it'll make things better for you as well. I guarantee it.

Washington is likelier than not to extend the marriage franchise regardless of putative 'gender' this year, New Jersey moderately so, and I am afraid that at some point in your life you will simply have to deal with living in a world in which your cold, anti-human, hydraulic conception of love won't carry the political weight that it used to when it comes to issues of making other people's lives worse than they have to be so you can feel better about yourself. Sorry, but you'll have to find some other way to do that when that happens. Might I suggest learning an instrument or taking up crochet?
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 11:52:17 PM »

I will be voting on the gay marriage law in NJ. I support domestic partership benefits for same-sex couples, but marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman and children are best raised either with 2 parents of different gender or one parent. I will be voting no.

What could possibly make one parent better than two of the same sex, all else being equal? I ask this, you should understand, as a person who was raised by a single mother.
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