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« on: January 27, 2012, 12:22:29 am »
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I feel as if the social and economic right is poorly represented in the new party layout, and while they're not as great a proportion of the Atlasian voter body as they are elsewhere, I am founding the Communitarian Party of Atlasia. I'll draft a platform tomorrow, but meanwhile, you can enjoy these proposed logos:

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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 04:32:04 am »
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I like your plan and your logos. Maybe we as conservatives can continue the discussion of what path we would like to purse in the "Right to Life Caucus" thread?
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 08:44:05 am »
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I doubt that I could ever join your party, but maximum respect for those beautiful logos.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 08:59:23 am »
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United We Stand!
Ladies and Gentelmen, I hereby propose merger of Whig Party and CPA.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 10:46:26 am »
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I am interested in a Communitarian Party even though I may be too far right economically to fit that description in the most superficial political sense (though I maintain many of my underlying instincts have been communitarian in nature since before I knew what communitarian was). If the RPP dissolution goes through, I will give this party serious consideration.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 11:27:51 am »
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I'm not quite sure where you're going with this, but I'm interested.
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 11:47:03 am »
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Define 'family.'
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 01:10:06 pm »
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DRAFT PLATFORM

We, the members of the Communitarian Party, desirous of the advancement of the state of Atlasia, our country, and the preservation of its society, believe:

-That the foundation of a democratic, peaceful, and prosperous society is the family and community.
-That we simultaneously re-affirm the idea of personal responsibility, aided via the community.
-That the greatest long-term crisis facing Atlasia today is the decline of social capital and community, which shall eventually come to harm that democratic, peaceful, and prosperous society we enjoy.
-That greatest power in the land is not the State, whether Federal or Regional, but instead the community and the individual.

-That the government is not the arbiter nor origin of economic growth, but rather a force than can and should be used to assisted the marketplace in its growth, in the interests of community and the nation.
-That the model of free and unrestricted two-way trade is the optimal model for trade between nations
-That the government is, by nature, the power that can best provide certain resources and services to society.
-The government should regulate trade and industry to maximize social equity, while in a manner that does not impede the normal functioning of the economy
-That welfare is meant to temporarily assist, not provide for, the people

-That Atlasia must be mindful of its being the world's foremost power
-That military conflict, in general, is counter to the well-being of man and thus must be avoided unless necessary
-That diplomacy, not warfare, is the cornerstone of foreign relations
-That multilateralism and collective security- a community of nations- is the best way to advance Atlasia's interests abroad
-That the goals set out in foreign interventions must be achieved.

-That the maintenance of tradition is an integral part of society
-That the concepts of "rights" and "entitlements" must be balanced by an awareness of responsibilities obligations to others
-That the life of all must be defended, and so both executions and abortion must be made rare
-That the promotion of culture and science is an integral function of society and its organizations.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 01:23:13 pm »
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-That gay and lesbian Atlasians are the equals of their heterosexual counterparts, but tradition must be considered


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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2012, 02:11:38 pm »
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I really like this platform. Once the RPP dissolves, I may join the CPA!

Fellow members of the Right to Life Caucus, wouldn't it be a good idea to join this new party?
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2012, 02:14:02 pm »
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I need to know more about foreign policy... this sounds based on UN and seems a bit isolationist

How would this party feel about Iran developing a nuke?
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2012, 03:39:54 pm »
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I need to know more about foreign policy... this sounds based on UN and seems a bit isolationist

How would this party feel about Iran developing a nuke?
We dislike military intervention, but when it is necessary we shall use it.

We stand opposed to Iran's development of a nuclear weapon, and while we would prefer a diplomatic solution, all option must be considered.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2012, 03:54:51 pm »
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I can support that policy though I would be on the hawk side... I  thing the Whig Party would be a better name... Communitarian sounds a bit strange
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2012, 04:16:51 pm »
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I can support that policy though I would be on the hawk side... I  thing the Whig Party would be a better name... Communitarian sounds a bit strange

Too close to "communist", huh? Wink

I don't care about the name of that party at all. I just want to join a conservative party, and I like the platform Simfan has proposed.
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 04:19:54 pm »
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I can support that policy though I would be on the hawk side... I  thing the Whig Party would be a better name... Communitarian sounds a bit strange

Too close to "communist", huh? Wink

I don't care about the name of that party at all. I just want to join a conservative party, and I like the platform Simfan has proposed.

That's what I was thinking yes- I think it needs a name change but I am happy with platform also. Pingvin and I are the only two Whig members I believe and we talked about merging but the name should change...
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2012, 04:21:54 pm »
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-That gay and lesbian Atlasians are the equals of their heterosexual counterparts, but tradition must be considered


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Take that last part out, and this becomes very tempting for me.
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2012, 04:27:17 pm »
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-That gay and lesbian Atlasians are the equals of their heterosexual counterparts, but tradition must be considered


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Take that last part out, and this becomes very tempting for me.

I suggest the following: Let's not bother with the wording of every single clause of the party's platform yet. Let's first decide if the general idea to form such a conservative party is a good idea, and once we settled that question we can still vote on specifics of the platform.
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2012, 04:31:10 pm »
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-That gay and lesbian Atlasians are the equals of their heterosexual counterparts, but tradition must be considered


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Take that last part out, and this becomes very tempting for me.

I was not necessarily opposing gay marriage, but literally saying "tradition must be considered". I am more than willing to strike that from the platform.

Clarence: the party is called the Communitarian Party because it is a communitarian party. An economically rightist one, yes but communitarian and Christian-democratic nonetheless.
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2012, 04:33:35 pm »
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What do you mean by "tradition must be considered", then?
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2012, 04:41:16 pm »
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-That gay and lesbian Atlasians are the equals of their heterosexual counterparts, but tradition must be considered


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Take that last part out, and this becomes very tempting for me.

I was not necessarily opposing gay marriage, but literally saying "tradition must be considered". I am more than willing to strike that from the platform.

Clarence: the party is called the Communitarian Party because it is a communitarian party. An economically rightist one, yes but communitarian and Christian-democratic nonetheless.

I'm unfamiliar with the term... but I think these are all minor issues we can settle at our first convention
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2012, 04:43:52 pm »
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-That gay and lesbian Atlasians are the equals of their heterosexual counterparts, but tradition must be considered


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Take that last part out, and this becomes very tempting for me.

I was not necessarily opposing gay marriage, but literally saying "tradition must be considered". I am more than willing to strike that from the platform.

Clarence: the party is called the Communitarian Party because it is a communitarian party. An economically rightist one, yes but communitarian and Christian-democratic nonetheless.

I'm unfamiliar with the term... but I think these are all minor issues we can settle at our first convention

No problem. I will of course launch the party if we can have at least five members.
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2012, 04:45:17 pm »
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Well consider me in!
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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2012, 06:20:41 pm »
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Welcome, and I hope more people register with us!

We now have a wiki page!

http://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Communitarian_Party
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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2012, 07:15:19 pm »
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I'm also proposing we oppose the death penalty. And are we up for gay marriage?
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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2012, 07:16:56 pm »
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I was ok with it for Right to Life but that is because it is consistent with the caucus and there were more important issues I felt... I won't raise a fuss about it if we change the name to Whig Party :-)
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