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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« on: January 28, 2012, 08:37:50 PM »
« edited: January 28, 2012, 08:48:42 PM by WeareAnonymous »

Now that the old parties have been dissolved I would like the leaders of the new parties come here and explain what would make me want to join your party so I can see which would be best for my views.

Thank you and let the discussion begin.

JCL (-IN)
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 08:57:00 PM »

To the Communtarians and the IFP and other parties

What are your views on the substanative issues of the day?

Role of government
Fiscal Matters: Re the debt crises and solutions
Foreign Policy
Civil Liberties
Abortion
Marriage
Religious Freedom
Education
Immigration
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 10:31:14 PM »

SimFan: I would say father and mother as I wholeheartedly oppose GLBT adoptions or marriage outright. It's this reason I wasn't appointed by the current Mideast Governor. Are both the Communtarians and IFP pro-regional sovreginity in our duel federalist system?

Polnut: Freedom brings people together. On core personal principals though I will stand like a stonewall even if I stand alone. IRL Dr Paul has done much work with both the left and the right building coalitions regarding individual liberties (look at the recent opposition to SOPA and PIP)

Cathcon: That is a good assessment of my quandary. That is why I decided put this thread together so I could make an informed decision.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 10:53:27 PM »

Nathan: What about the rights of the regions?
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2012, 11:06:41 PM »

Nathan: What about the rights of the regions?

Rights of the regions in what respect? Within the framework of making sure that every Atlasian citizen has access to his or her own rights, immunities, life and limb, education, square meals, and opportunity to work, we're entirely in support of regions tailoring specific policies to fit their unique needs and circumstances.

What I ment is the right of the regions to disagree and not enforce or override via law the federal government when conscience and constuition dictates (ie Nullification) In the manner of how many of the states are opposed to Obamacare on the grounds of its interference with the 10 th amendment rights of the states?
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2012, 11:26:25 PM »

Why do you oppose gay adoption. Sure, some of us might prefer that gay couples not exist, but they do. I'd rather have a child growing up in a family, as non-traditional as it might be (short of crime, etc.) than in a government orphanage. Those kids that are stuck there will hardly be ready for the world when they leave at the age of eighteen, and it's better in my opinion to have them growing up in a household.

I've heard of a LGBT couple in California that are giving shots to their adopted son to suppress his masculinity. The worse part is that this couple professes to be Jewish. Science proves that childern are best raised in a home with a married father and mother anything else and that kid will struggle with his or her self-identity.

I firmly believe in family stability. However gay marriage and adoption is a line I will not cross.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2012, 12:06:52 AM »

SimFan: That is a good idea. I'd also encourage a strong stance against the sex slave trade and human trafficking.
Senator 20RP12: Would you agree with regards to human trafficking and the sex slave trade?

At the moment I would consider myself as a Crossbencher betwixt both the IFP and the Communtarian/Whig Parties as I personally have so many agreements with both party platforms. If I were to formally join one over the other I would create a caucus to help promote alliances when needed.
For instance if I go Communtarian/Whig it would be a Paulite based fiscal conservative group. If I go IFP I'd have a pro-life/Family Vaues caucus to help bridge the gaps. I'm already at present part of the Pro-Life Caucus at the moment.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2012, 12:50:57 AM »

To JCL...

I think you would probably be better off in the Communitarian Party than the Individual Freedom Party since the CPA the two are farther apart on social issues than they are on fiscal issues. Certainly neither is everything you are looking for in a party (heck, I don't agree with some of the stuff Simfan said in this thread) but that's part of being in a party. We aren't as far to the left fiscally as our name might suggest either. Look at our membership, we have many more fiscal conservatives than liberals in our ranks.

I know I have like minded folks socially (Many of the Pro-Life Caucus is here) in the party but I want to help unite the conservative factions to have a shot of bringing a small government conservative agenda to help Atlasia. The left is doing so and it would hurt us if we didn't. A way to do so would be almost as right/libertarian on economics.

What are the parties views on Right to Work (aka open shop factories vs closed shop union factory regions) IRL Indiana will become Right to Work within the next few weeks.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2012, 01:55:46 AM »
« Edited: January 29, 2012, 02:03:20 AM by WeareAnonymous »

We firmly oppose Right to Scab Workin any and all incarnations. Unionization is the cornerstone of an equitable industrialized society.

While I support the right to organize for the purpose of collective bargaining and guarantee of workplace safety I also equally hold to the belief that being forced to join a union as a requirement of employment in any industry is wrong. There are many "Regan/JFK Democrats" IRL who
While think it wise to have unions think it dangerous to allow union dues to go to causes and political canidates who oppose their personal values. I am from one of the union towns in the Midwest that have many conservatives who work in the auto factories like Delphi, Chrysler/Fiat and Ford who think the unions are so historically in bed with the left that the conflict with many of their personal conservative values.  
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2012, 02:19:36 AM »

We firmly oppose Right to Scab Workin any and all incarnations. Unionization is the cornerstone of an equitable industrialized society.

While I support the right to organize for the purpose of collective bargaining and guarantee of workplace safety I also equally hold to the belief that being forced to join a union as a requirement of employment in any industry is wrong. There are many "Regan/JFK Democrats" IRL who
While think it wise to have unions think it dangerous to allow union dues to go to causes and political canidates who oppose their personal values. I am from one of the union towns in the Midwest that have many conservatives who work in the auto factories like Delphi, Chrysler/Fiat and Ford who think the unions are so historically in bed with the left that the conflict with many of their personal conservative values.  

The solution to that is limits on political contributions, not taking a wrecking ball to the working class.


Allowing non union labor promotes competition and does not take a wreaking ball to the working class.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2012, 02:37:57 AM »

Nathan: though we may be on opposing sides may we find a way to have an passionate yet amicable debate on the issues and maybe on an issue or two come together for the best of all Atlasians.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2012, 02:53:02 AM »

If you are looking for non-amicable debate, I could tell off someone??



In my seeking a future party, I created this thread to make a fair and wise choice regarding my alliances going ahead. I'd like things to maintain the civility and at times fun that we all have in playing this game regardless of personal politics
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