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ShadowOfTheWave
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Re: Allen West on Liberals: Get the Hell Out Of The U.S.
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Aren't equality and achievement the American dream?
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Progressive Realist
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Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on January 30, 2012, 12:21:58 pm
Aren't equality and achievement the American dream?
The American dream is to turn the whole country into Mississippi.
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Scabr
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Quote from: DrScholl on January 30, 2012, 09:53:06 am
He's finished, anyway, so all this really makes no difference. After the insane email he sent Rep. Wasserman Schultz, there is no doubt he means what he says. During the last election, he even used rhetoric about going to his opponent's house, which is clearly crazy as well.
The insane email that called Wasserman Schultz unprofessional? That sounds like an accurate description to me. Anyway, this is obviously just rhetoric you can throw to the crowd, you know, kind of like how Republicans like to throw Grandma off cliffs?
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Nathan
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Quote from: Scabr on January 30, 2012, 12:42:26 pm
Quote from: DrScholl on January 30, 2012, 09:53:06 am
He's finished, anyway, so all this really makes no difference. After the insane email he sent Rep. Wasserman Schultz, there is no doubt he means what he says. During the last election, he even used rhetoric about going to his opponent's house, which is clearly crazy as well.
The insane email that called Wasserman Schultz unprofessional? That sounds like an accurate description to me. Anyway, this is obviously just rhetoric you can throw to the crowd, you know, kind of like how Republicans like to throw Grandma off cliffs?
Allen West calling somebody
else
unprofessional is de facto insane, even independent of the content of the email, which was rhetorically a throwback to a century that most of us wouldn't want to live in as well as at points quite blatantly misogynistic.
Incidentally, I always found the point in the email at which West tells the leader of a major national political party to 'focus on [her] own congressional district' hilarious considering that he lives in her district, not his own.
I mean, you don't
have
to defend West on the email even if you like him. I think probably most people have at some time in their life sent a highly regrettable email to somebody they don't like. It's just unfortunate when it's done semi-publicly by a US Congressman.
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MilesC56
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Re: Allen West on Liberals: Get the Hell Out Of The U.S.
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Surprise. And now he's trying to backpedal.
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krazen1211
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West will be back in Congress. Sorry.
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Re: Allen West on Liberals: Get the Hell Out Of The U.S.
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Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on January 30, 2012, 12:21:58 pm
Aren't equality and achievement the American dream?
It's called a dream for a reason.
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Nathan
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Quote from: krazen1211 on January 31, 2012, 05:29:46 pm
West will be back in Congress. Sorry.
I take it you agree with Mr West on this as well as other topics?
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Nathan: A shameless agrarian collectivist with no respect for private property or individual rights. Can you really trust him?
Quote from: Joe Republic on April 25, 2013, 03:29:18 pm
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krazen1211
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Re: Allen West on Liberals: Get the Hell Out Of The U.S.
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Quote from: Nathan on January 31, 2012, 06:02:47 pm
Quote from: krazen1211 on January 31, 2012, 05:29:46 pm
West will be back in Congress. Sorry.
I take it you agree with Mr West on this as well as other topics?
His rhetoric is quite over the edge at times, and while Debbie Wasserman Schultz engaged in cowardly tactics, it probably didn't merit that particular response.
That said, he is a very good congressman.
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Nathan
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The fact that many may think that doesn't make him more likely to win reelection, of course.
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Quote from: Averroës Nix on October 18, 2012, 07:59:32 pm
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Nathan: A shameless agrarian collectivist with no respect for private property or individual rights. Can you really trust him?
Quote from: Joe Republic on April 25, 2013, 03:29:18 pm
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krazen1211
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Quote from: Nathan on January 31, 2012, 06:25:45 pm
The fact that many may think that doesn't make him more likely to win reelection, of course.
No, but the fact that he is moving to a new improved Congressional district chock full of additional Republican voters does.
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Nathan
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Quote from: krazen1211 on January 31, 2012, 06:53:19 pm
Quote from: Nathan on January 31, 2012, 06:25:45 pm
The fact that many may think that doesn't make him more likely to win reelection, of course.
No, but the fact that he is moving to a new improved Congressional district chock full of additional Republican voters does.
So parachuting into a safe seat like they do with such characters in Britain, then? I wonder what your opinion of this practice in when people in Britain, or for that matter Democrats, do it.
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Nathan: A shameless agrarian collectivist with no respect for private property or individual rights. Can you really trust him?
Quote from: Joe Republic on April 25, 2013, 03:29:18 pm
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DrScholl
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Re: Allen West on Liberals: Get the Hell Out Of The U.S.
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Quote from: Scabr on January 30, 2012, 12:42:26 pm
The insane email that called Wasserman Schultz unprofessional? That sounds like an accurate description to me. Anyway, this is obviously just rhetoric you can throw to the crowd, you know, kind of like how Republicans like to throw Grandma off cliffs?
Did you read the email? It was not normal the way he went off.
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DrScholl
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Quote from: Nathan on January 31, 2012, 07:02:28 pm
So parachuting into a safe seat like they do with such characters in Britain, then? I wonder what your opinion of this practice in when people in Britain, or for that matter Democrats, do it.
Fortunately, it's not exactly a safe seat, it's actually quite marginal, especially for someone who shoots off their mouth like West does. His over the top style may still cost him a seat.
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krazen1211
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Quote from: Nathan on January 31, 2012, 07:02:28 pm
Quote from: krazen1211 on January 31, 2012, 06:53:19 pm
Quote from: Nathan on January 31, 2012, 06:25:45 pm
The fact that many may think that doesn't make him more likely to win reelection, of course.
No, but the fact that he is moving to a new improved Congressional district chock full of additional Republican voters does.
So parachuting into a safe seat like they do with such characters in Britain, then? I wonder what your opinion of this practice in when people in Britain, or for that matter Democrats, do it.
No particular opinion one way or another. As a general rule its beneficial when the Democrats (ie, say, Steve Rothman) abandon districts where they will lose in favor of bashing another Democrat.
You go where you can best serve the public.
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Rooney
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Re: Allen West on Liberals: Get the Hell Out Of The U.S.
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Does Adam West live in his district because that would be the best congressional election ever.
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Nathan
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Quote from: krazen1211 on January 31, 2012, 10:21:58 pm
Quote from: Nathan on January 31, 2012, 07:02:28 pm
Quote from: krazen1211 on January 31, 2012, 06:53:19 pm
Quote from: Nathan on January 31, 2012, 06:25:45 pm
The fact that many may think that doesn't make him more likely to win reelection, of course.
No, but the fact that he is moving to a new improved Congressional district chock full of additional Republican voters does.
So parachuting into a safe seat like they do with such characters in Britain, then? I wonder what your opinion of this practice in when people in Britain, or for that matter Democrats, do it.
No particular opinion one way or another. As a general rule its beneficial when the Democrats (ie, say, Steve Rothman) abandon districts where they will lose in favor of bashing another Democrat.
You go where you can best serve the public.
All right, fair enough then.
For what it's worth, I don't object to West seeking greener pastures either, since he's staying in 'his' area of South Florida and not blatantly carpetbagging to Texas or someplace (it would have, I like to think, annoyed me when HillRod did that had I been politically aware at that time).
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BRTD
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West's carpetbagging isn't that awful when you consider the districts in Florida represent no real communities of interest anyway and can easily end up represented by someone from a part of the district not very representative of it. Plus since he'll be a bad candidate in a marginal seat it gives us an opportunity to take it. It's not a safe seat that he's moving to and still even voted for Obama.
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Quote from: krazen1211 on January 31, 2012, 05:29:46 pm
West will be back in Congress. Sorry.
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Yes West is going to win in a walk in his new district where McCain won a whopping 48.3% of the vote.
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smoltchanov
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Re: Allen West on Liberals: Get the Hell Out Of The U.S.
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Quote from: krazen1211 on January 31, 2012, 05:29:46 pm
West will be back in Congress. Sorry.
I sincerely hope - not. He is an idiot. The caricature Republican Alan Grayson (the only other difference - one is white, another - black, but
both
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