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« on: January 30, 2012, 08:58:18 pm »
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Newt has proposed it. After 13,000 Americans live on a moon base, it can apply to be the 51st state.

Is there any constitutional problem with this, or would the constitutionality be the easy part of all this?
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2012, 09:14:22 pm »
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It would be the easy part.

However, due to the Northwest Ordinance, it would have to be 60,000 people.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 10:14:29 pm »
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The United States has signed a treaty in which it has pledged not to annex any part of the Moon.
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2012, 01:09:51 am »

It would be the easy part.

However, due to the Northwest Ordinance, it would have to be 60,000 people.

The moon is not in the Northwest Territory, so that does not apply.  Indeed, Nevada was admitted with under 60,000 people in the expectation that it would rapidly grow, which did not pan out.

The United States has signed a treaty in which it has pledged not to annex any part of the Moon.

The Outer Space Treaty can be exitted with one year notice.  Not that I think that would be a good thing to do.
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2012, 11:21:59 pm »
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I neither question the legality nor the constitutionality of make the Moon the 51st state.  I do question the sanity of making the Moon the 51st state.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 01:20:08 am »
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Fully constitutional, and would kick major ass!
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2012, 06:00:55 pm »
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Would it be the most democratic state, because of science and all.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2012, 06:13:49 am »
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2012, 07:39:17 am »
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I prefer the Moon to have similar legal status as Antarctica.
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2012, 03:27:11 pm »
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I prefer the Moon to have similar legal status as Antarctica.

At least for now, ya. I can think of four decent reasons why claiming Luna as a territory or state would be bad idea.
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2012, 05:19:04 pm »
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2012, 06:46:29 pm »
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A blue moon?  I can't see that happening very often.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2012, 10:41:55 pm »

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A blue moon?  I can't see that happening very often.

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