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Topic: Labor Party Standing Committee thread: Endorsement voting (Read 20812 times)
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Reply #275 on:
April 04, 2012, 08:00:58 pm »
Neither should we sit idly by and allow the nation to continue to decay into oblivion.
Democracy at the level of the nation-state is a means to an end. The end has not been met.
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Reply #276 on:
April 04, 2012, 08:22:55 pm »
Quote from: Nathan on April 04, 2012, 08:00:58 pm
Neither should we sit idly by and allow the nation to continue to decay into oblivion.
Democracy at the level of the nation-state is a means to an end. The end has not been met.
I would be very concerned if the Labor Party goes down this path.
The answer to a time of stagnation (especially before November this year) is not a revolution.
This scenario would provide drama, but also more likely to force more people out of Atlasia than compel them to come, let alone maintain numbers.
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Reply #277 on:
April 04, 2012, 08:25:40 pm »
I will most likely leave if the revolution succeeds because my job as RG/SoFE is the only thing keeping me here.
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Reply #278 on:
April 04, 2012, 08:38:43 pm »
Quote from: President Polnut on April 04, 2012, 08:22:55 pm
Quote from: Nathan on April 04, 2012, 08:00:58 pm
Neither should we sit idly by and allow the nation to continue to decay into oblivion.
Democracy at the level of the nation-state is a means to an end. The end has not been met.
I would be very concerned if the Labor Party goes down this path.
The answer to a time of stagnation (especially before November this year) is not a revolution.
This scenario would provide drama, but also more likely to force more people out of Atlasia than compel them to come, let alone maintain numbers.
I'd be similarly concerned if the Labor Party became complacent and neoliberal, but if there's not much appetite for this within the Party I'll advise you that my personal support for this need not govern you. Tweed gave me an ultimatum to decide now earlier today and I decided yes but this very well might turn out to have been a bad idea and I admit that. I would still appreciate it if I could get at least some of you on board with this, because I'm convinced that something drastic has to be done. What I do know is that we can't go on like this. There's a certain level of inevitable risk involved.
I won't be resigning any of my offices at this time.
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Reply #279 on:
April 04, 2012, 08:46:59 pm »
Quote from: Nathan on April 04, 2012, 08:38:43 pm
Quote from: President Polnut on April 04, 2012, 08:22:55 pm
Quote from: Nathan on April 04, 2012, 08:00:58 pm
Neither should we sit idly by and allow the nation to continue to decay into oblivion.
Democracy at the level of the nation-state is a means to an end. The end has not been met.
I would be very concerned if the Labor Party goes down this path.
The answer to a time of stagnation (especially before November this year) is not a revolution.
This scenario would provide drama, but also more likely to force more people out of Atlasia than compel them to come, let alone maintain numbers.
I'd be similarly concerned if the Labor Party became complacent and neoliberal, but if there's not much appetite for this within the Party I'll advise you that my personal support for this need not govern you. Tweed gave me an ultimatum to decide now earlier today and I decided yes but this very well might turn out to have been a bad idea and I admit that. I would still appreciate it if I could get at least some of you on board with this, because I'm convinced that something drastic has to be done. What I do know is that we can't go on like this. There's a certain level of inevitable risk involved.
I won't be resigning any of my offices at this time.
Look, you're completely within your rights to advocate what you want.
I just think it's going to end badly. I'm not saying this out of self-interest of any kind, I say this as someone who sees nothing positive in this kind of destabilisation.
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Nathan
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Quote from: President Polnut on April 04, 2012, 08:46:59 pm
Quote from: Nathan on April 04, 2012, 08:38:43 pm
Quote from: President Polnut on April 04, 2012, 08:22:55 pm
Quote from: Nathan on April 04, 2012, 08:00:58 pm
Neither should we sit idly by and allow the nation to continue to decay into oblivion.
Democracy at the level of the nation-state is a means to an end. The end has not been met.
I would be very concerned if the Labor Party goes down this path.
The answer to a time of stagnation (especially before November this year) is not a revolution.
This scenario would provide drama, but also more likely to force more people out of Atlasia than compel them to come, let alone maintain numbers.
I'd be similarly concerned if the Labor Party became complacent and neoliberal, but if there's not much appetite for this within the Party I'll advise you that my personal support for this need not govern you. Tweed gave me an ultimatum to decide now earlier today and I decided yes but this very well might turn out to have been a bad idea and I admit that. I would still appreciate it if I could get at least some of you on board with this, because I'm convinced that something drastic has to be done. What I do know is that we can't go on like this. There's a certain level of inevitable risk involved.
I won't be resigning any of my offices at this time.
Look, you're completely within your rights to advocate what you want.
I just think it's going to end badly. I'm not saying this out of self-interest of any kind, I say this as someone who sees nothing positive in this kind of destabilisation.
Understood. Thank you for your advice.
I'd like to keep this debate open longer. Say, through tomorrow? Or until Tweed gets back to us. I've asked him to drop in and explain to us why he thinks this is a good idea.
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Nathan: A shameless agrarian collectivist with no respect for private property or individual rights. Can you really trust him?
Quote from: Joe Republic on April 25, 2013, 03:29:18 pm
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Quote from: Nathan on March 28, 2012, 07:11:50 pm
Let's make it happen.
It is the sense of the Party that the revivification of Atlasia as laid out in Boss Tweed's current platform is of absolute necessity for any serious Presidential candidate in these lethargic times.
Good? It even has a Paul Verlaine reference.
I withdraw my previous acceptance pending further information about the nature of Tweed's ideas.
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Nathan
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Reply #282 on:
April 04, 2012, 09:44:40 pm »
Quote from: Alfred F. Jones on April 04, 2012, 09:07:33 pm
Quote from: Nathan on March 28, 2012, 07:11:50 pm
Let's make it happen.
It is the sense of the Party that the revivification of Atlasia as laid out in Boss Tweed's current platform is of absolute necessity for any serious Presidential candidate in these lethargic times.
Good? It even has a Paul Verlaine reference.
I withdraw my previous acceptance pending further information about the nature of Tweed's ideas.
The ideas I was referring to at that point were his presidential platform, which was before he declared his revolution.
Again, Tweed, get in here, please.
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Professor
Nathan: A shameless agrarian collectivist with no respect for private property or individual rights. Can you really trust him?
Quote from: Joe Republic on April 25, 2013, 03:29:18 pm
It's like one minute you're preaching from the pulpit at some exceedingly dull church; the next you're a giving a Womens' Studies lecture at Berkeley.
IDS Legislator Alfred F. Jones
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Reply #283 on:
April 05, 2012, 05:25:49 am »
Quote from: Nathan on April 04, 2012, 09:44:40 pm
Quote from: Alfred F. Jones on April 04, 2012, 09:07:33 pm
Quote from: Nathan on March 28, 2012, 07:11:50 pm
Let's make it happen.
It is the sense of the Party that the revivification of Atlasia as laid out in Boss Tweed's current platform is of absolute necessity for any serious Presidential candidate in these lethargic times.
Good? It even has a Paul Verlaine reference.
I withdraw my previous acceptance pending further information about the nature of Tweed's ideas.
The ideas I was referring to at that point were his presidential platform, which was before he declared his revolution.
Again, Tweed, get in here, please.
Ah. I support his platform, though I'm not so sure about this 'revolution'.
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Reply #284 on:
April 05, 2012, 05:53:32 am »
I forecasted the exact complaints being made in this thread in my video, which I would urge all of you to watch and pay attention to.
your notion of 'treason' is absolute nonsense: THIS IS A GAME. it is a game that is so far removed from what we want it to be, yet all of you feel this abstract loyalty to election calendars and failed structures.
have fun with it, while I, the Creator, now also take upon myself the role of the Savior.
any of your contributions to my project would be appreciated, and would benefit you in the long run.
also please note that I never called my project a 'revolution': the phrase was 'decisive, revolutionary break'. I seek discontinuity.
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Reply #285 on:
April 05, 2012, 12:01:29 pm »
Thank you, Tweed.
It should be remembered that Tweed was indeed, as he claims, one of the driving forces behind the creation of Atlasia in the first place. It should also be remembered that the current mockup structure of Atlasia does not fit the vision that many of us have already decided that we functionally agreed with.
What, exactly, do you guys think the point is in continuing this game as it has been?
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Quote from: Joe Republic on April 25, 2013, 03:29:18 pm
It's like one minute you're preaching from the pulpit at some exceedingly dull church; the next you're a giving a Womens' Studies lecture at Berkeley.
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Reply #286 on:
April 05, 2012, 02:16:37 pm »
If you win, I'll make sure that the Senate keeps you in check.
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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April 05, 2012, 02:43:01 pm »
Quote from: Snowstalker on April 05, 2012, 02:16:37 pm
If you win, I'll make sure that the Senate keeps you in check.
I'm not sure you understand the point of the ideas being floated.
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Nathan: A shameless agrarian collectivist with no respect for private property or individual rights. Can you really trust him?
Quote from: Joe Republic on April 25, 2013, 03:29:18 pm
It's like one minute you're preaching from the pulpit at some exceedingly dull church; the next you're a giving a Womens' Studies lecture at Berkeley.
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Reply #288 on:
April 05, 2012, 03:07:48 pm »
I do, but I feel that we should focus on solving problems through conventional means.
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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April 05, 2012, 03:13:57 pm »
Quote from: Snowstalker on April 05, 2012, 03:07:48 pm
I do, but I feel that we should focus on solving problems through conventional means.
Or even unconventional means that perhaps incorporate less radical forms of the better aspects of Tweedism. As someone who helped reenergize the Northeast Region under inactive governor Ghostwhite, I would like to also seek the Labor Party's endorsement. I think your party would appreciate my record of service and it is too soon to give up on the Atlasia we know and love.
As President Polnut acknowledged, temporary slumps happen. We can make the game fun. I enjoyed the series of close elections when the RPP and JCP were still around.
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Quote from: Governor Napoleon on April 05, 2012, 03:13:57 pm
Quote from: Snowstalker on April 05, 2012, 03:07:48 pm
I do, but I feel that we should focus on solving problems through conventional means.
Or even unconventional means that perhaps incorporate less radical forms of the better aspects of Tweedism. As someone who helped reenergize the Northeast Region under inactive governor Ghostwhite, I would like to also seek the Labor Party's endorsement. I think your party would appreciate my record of service and it is too soon to give up on the Atlasia we know and love.
As President Polnut acknowledged, temporary slumps happen. We can make the game fun. I enjoyed the series of close elections when the RPP and JCP were still around.
Thank you, Napoleon. While I'm still in support of Tweed and most of Tweedist thought I am not the
boss
of the Party and I of course remember your work in the Northeast, including your encouraging me to enter politics, with honor. I think we'll be proud to consider endorsing you as well as continuing to consider Tweed's ideas and methods.
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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April 05, 2012, 11:59:42 pm »
I'm doing a write-in campaign for Senate. Draft Seatown!
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Hey, now we can kick Pingvin out! Huzzah!
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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April 12, 2012, 02:13:24 pm »
Very important that everyone votes in the upcoming election, we have a lot of labor candidates running.
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Nathan, send the message to our fine members and tell them to Vote For Us!
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[Alfred]
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Aye-aye!
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Hold on, I have a question:
Do my Senate office and my campaign office have to be separate? Because Clarence's and TJ's are, but Pingvin's is.
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Re: Labor Party Inaugural Convention: Platform discussion
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Quote from: Senator Alfred F. Jones on April 13, 2012, 03:25:06 pm
Hold on, I have a question:
Do my Senate office and my campaign office have to be separate? Because Clarence's and TJ's are, but Pingvin's is.
That's how you prefer, I guess. Personally, I've always used the same thread for campaign and officeholding.
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Hey, I might be somewhat less able to be active in GOTV this time round than I expected on account of, uh, shall we say, emotional health issues. Would Antonio or Snowstalker mind handling this for the moment?
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Quote from: Nathan on April 14, 2012, 11:55:53 pm
Hey, I might be somewhat less able to be active in GOTV this time round than I expected on account of, uh, shall we say, emotional health issues. Would Antonio or Snowstalker mind handling this for the moment?
Sorry, I'm utterly overworked these days.
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"A good portion of this country has created an alternate universe. I call this place were these folks live Bullsh*t Mountain. The denizens of Bullsh*t Mountain believe many things: they believe that a Kenyan Muslim President has fundamentally changed the relationship between government and the people of this country."
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