Labor Party Standing Committee thread: Endorsement voting

[LastVoter]

Hi guys.

[LastVoter]

Is presidential election IRV/2 round or first past the post? If it's IRV we should field our own candidate.
Btw since we are most likely going to endorse the Socialists, I thought I should add their platform here.

No need to motion that, I can do it right now. It's not really a platform, just some crudely jotted "core beliefs". However, they shall henceforth be known as the Washburnist Manifesto,

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I bolded the parts that may seem undemocratic to various members of our party. And the whole labor thing.

[LastVoter]

We are very committed to democracy. But, I will address the bolded parts.

Trade: Well, I don't believe we should be doing trade with dictatorships or with nations that while democratic, are run by corporatists.

Foreign intervention: It will not be a commitment of a Washburn presidency to start invading countries. We will however support insurgent movements in nations, to oppose dictatorships. The recent Arab spring uprisings would have all received help from a Washburn administration.

Education: This has been covered already in this thread.

State run broadcaster: This will be completely democratic. The state run broadcaster will not spew government propaganda, but rather be a forum of ideas, from both the left and the right. It will exist to provide neutrality, and biaslessness to compete with corporatist media. The corporatist media cannot be trusted, because they are beholden to their corporate overloads.

Death penalty: No Atlasian will be convicted of the death penalty, however will not oppose other nations using the death penalty against former dictators.

Police having guns: Police will be discouraged to use guns, but they will need them if a criminal has a gun. I don't see the problem with that.

Well in my opinion normal police shouldn't have guns, but they shouldn't be put into situations where their life would be in danger, guns should be only reserved for national guard/army.

[LastVoter]

Should the Labor Party field its own ticket for this Presidential election?
[X] Yes
[ ] No

If the party does not field a ticket, which other candidate should it endorse?
[3] 20RP12
[1] EarlAW
[2] Polnut
[ ] ZuWo
[ ] No endorsement

[LastVoter]

So does anyone care to explain if we will split the vote from the socialists by nominating our own candidate? Because our first goal should be preventing the presidency from falling into right wing hands.

[LastVoter]

So does anyone care to explain if we will split the vote from the socialists by nominating our own candidate? Because our first goal should be preventing the presidency from falling into right wing hands.

Not really my place, but why even be your own party then?

There are other offices we can hold.

[LastVoter]

Changing my vote to YES since this IRV.
1. Barnes
2. EarlAW
3. Polnut
4. Duke
5. ZuWo
6. 20RP12

[LastVoter]

So what is going on?

[LastVoter]

We are/were going to. But this is like herding cats.

Guys, come back. We should decide on our answer to Scott's question.

Sorry I don't have much experience in this game, so i'll probably just end up voting along the party-lines.

[LastVoter]

Go vote! Not sure if many people are actually subbed to this thread, and what effect it will have.

[LastVoter]

This election is close and we might actually win it!.

[LastVoter]

I disagree, will explain later, but I don't think that students should be divided by 9th grade. I am thinking of using the current Community College system and allowing people to diverge starting 11th grade into Technical or traditional 4 or 2 year degrees and going to their community colleges. Make Elementary school 1-6th grades, and middle school 7th-10th.

[LastVoter]

I disagree, will explain later, but I don't think that students should be divided by 9th grade. I am thinking of using the current Community College system and allowing people to diverge starting 11th grade into Technical or traditional 4 or 2 year degrees and going to their community colleges. Make Elementary school 1-6th grades, and middle school 7th-10th.

I would support divergence at 11th grade. Quite frankly I wouldn't want my 8th-grade self making decisions about his future on his own.

This is my main reason, and another reason because the "smarts" need to interact with "dumbs" for sometime when it becomes apparent(probably happens around 4 or 5th grade, by 9th and 10th it's really apparent which road is everyone heading towards, and it's still the part of development where people are defining themselves). I know I am actually speaking out of my ass, since I haven't taken much more than psychological classes, but the first reason is pretty important imo.

[LastVoter]

I disagree, will explain later, but I don't think that students should be divided by 9th grade. I am thinking of using the current Community College system and allowing people to diverge starting 11th grade into Technical or traditional 4 or 2 year degrees and going to their community colleges. Make Elementary school 1-6th grades, and middle school 7th-10th.

I would support divergence at 11th grade. Quite frankly I wouldn't want my 8th-grade self making decisions about his future on his own.

This is my main reason, and another reason because the "smarts" need to interact with "dumbs" for sometime when it becomes apparent(probably happens around 4 or 5th grade, by 9th and 10th it's really apparent which road is everyone heading towards, and it's still the part of development where people are defining themselves). I know I am actually speaking out of my ass, since I haven't taken much more than psychological classes, but the first reason is pretty important imo.

I'm fine with moving the date to the end of 10th grade, however, I insist on still choosing three different paths.  In this case, continuing at the same school or moving to Scholarly or Technical.

I think I'm fine with 3 paths, but i would have them set up somewhat different, and outside of Technical it would be ambiguous like it is right now(AP vs Honors vs Normal classes vs basic-skill learning classes). I'll explain more later

[LastVoter]

30 hour work week? 5*6 or 4*7.5

[LastVoter]

Looks like Earl is losing in at-large Senate election... This can't be good. The right-winger turnout is strong with that one.

[LastVoter]

Uh looks like I missed Oakvale's candidacy too So yeah vote Oakvale and Earl guys.

[LastVoter]

Btw I am thinking of running for something this summer. What would be a doable entry-level position for me(Pacific residency)?

[LastVoter]

As long as free trade doesn't abuse working class, it's ok. But it always does.

[LastVoter]

I think we should endorse Tweed for president.

[LastVoter]

Of course we could go the political savvy decision and make sure that opposition also supports the revivification of Atlasia to get the desired outcome on that issue regardless of election results, by marginalizing anyone who doesn't support Tweed's position. Seems to me many people want that anyway, so it shouldn't be hard to do.

[LastVoter]

Sounds good.

[LastVoter]

Well I want to run for something in summer.

[LastVoter]

Btw what's the status quo of Atlasia's taxes and current expenses(I need to see that before proposing a different tax structure).

[LastVoter]

I'm doing a write-in campaign for Senate. Draft Seatown!