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Yank2133
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Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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February 01, 2012, 12:06:58 pm »
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_OH_02012.pdf
Obama-49
Romney-42
D:45% R:36% I: 11%
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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February 01, 2012, 12:09:43 pm »
45% is quite D friendly, no?
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Yank2133
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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Quote from: Senator Napoleon on February 01, 2012, 12:09:43 pm
45% is quite D friendly, no?
Yup.
The race will be tighter in Ohio, but Obama seems to be in good shape to match what he did in 2008.
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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Those damn poor people.
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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Romney's favourables are dire, as you might expect.
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Yank2133
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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February 01, 2012, 12:20:49 pm »
I do find it funny that Rick does the best against Obama in Ohio at the moment.
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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February 01, 2012, 12:30:58 pm »
This shows that Romney is a horrible match to Rust Belt, that is a place where he needs to win one or two states to win election. Only people interested in Romney nomination are establishment kinds that don't want to lose Congress power. If Obama gains a good mandate against Romney, he'll get a strong mandate in November.
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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February 01, 2012, 12:43:30 pm »
This is why the nomination fight needs to end.
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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February 01, 2012, 12:43:45 pm »
Quote from: Senator Napoleon on February 01, 2012, 12:09:43 pm
45% is quite D friendly, no?
Obama is winning independents 45-40 though.
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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Quote from: The Count on February 01, 2012, 12:15:26 pm
Those damn poor people.
Quote from: Gingrich Agonistes on February 01, 2012, 12:17:21 pm
Romney's favourables are dire, as you might expect.
Quote from: RodPresident on February 01, 2012, 12:30:58 pm
This shows that Romney is a horrible match to Rust Belt, that is a place where he needs to win one or two states to win election. Only people interested in Romney nomination are establishment kinds that don't want to lose Congress power. If Obama gains a good mandate against Romney, he'll get a strong mandate in November.
Not to worry guys, Romney will close the gap once he money-bombs the state.
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ShadowOfTheWave
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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February 01, 2012, 12:53:46 pm »
As PPP points out, McCain led Obama 49-41 at the same time in 08, though I doubt Obama's favorables were that low.
And by the way the nomination fight didn't cost Obama Ohio, and he didn't even win it's primary.
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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February 01, 2012, 01:22:16 pm »
Not surprising, I don't expect Romney to be a very good candidate for that area.
The failure of the anti-union vote last November, with the NO racking huge margins in some heavily Republican areas shows than the state is Republican for social reasons, not economic ones.
Sure, Obama isn't a good candidate for there, but Ronmey is worse. And it is not surprising than Santorum runs well there, because of that.
Hard-right economics aren't good to win in the Rust Belt.
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King
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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February 01, 2012, 01:43:57 pm »
Ohio was D+8 (39-31-30) in 2008 exit polls when Obama won by 4 and R+5 in 2004 (35-40-25) when Bush won by 3.
This leads to believe the voters of Ohio are liars.
Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on February 01, 2012, 12:53:46 pm
As PPP points out, McCain led Obama 49-41 at the same time in 08, though I doubt Obama's favorables were that low.
And by the way the nomination fight didn't cost Obama Ohio, and he didn't even win it's primary.
A look at our database shows McCain consistently led Obama in Ohio until the September economic collapse.
A double dip is the only GOP hope.
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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Quote from: King on February 01, 2012, 01:43:57 pm
Ohio was D+8 (39-31-30) in 2008 exit polls when Obama won by 4 and R+5 in 2004 (35-40-25) when Bush won by 3.
This leads to believe the voters of Ohio are liars.
You needed to look into polling to figure that out?
This is the state of Mike Naso and Joe Delaney, of course they're liars!
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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"One caveat: in March of 2008 we polled Ohio when the current situation was reversed- the Republicans knew who their nominee was, while Democrats were still engaged in a bloody fight to determine theirs. We found John McCain leading Obama 49-41 at that point and of course in the end Obama won the state by 4 points in the fall. So while this is a good place for Obama to be it could change quite a bit once Republicans all get on the same page."
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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February 01, 2012, 02:19:45 pm »
Looking deeper into the results, I can't see how Obama loses this election. He has a 61% approval rating in this state with people who classify themselves as moderate, meanwhile the favorability among moderates is Gingrich -53, Romney -33, Santorum -31, Paul -29.
Worse yet, Obama leads Gingrich, Paul and Romney among seniors, which McCain carried by 11 points in a 2008 losing effort and Bush by 16 in a narrow victory.
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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Quote from: Yank2133 on February 01, 2012, 12:06:58 pm
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_OH_02012.pdf
Obama-49
Romney-42
D:45% R:36% I: 11%
I'm reading D:42%; R: 36% and I:21%
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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Quote from: King on February 01, 2012, 02:19:45 pm
Looking deeper into the results, I can't see how Obama loses this election.
He has a 61% approval rating in this state with people who classify themselves as moderate
, meanwhile the favorability among moderates is Gingrich -53, Romney -33, Santorum -31, Paul -29.
Worse yet, Obama leads Gingrich, Paul and Romney among seniors, which McCain carried by 11 points in a 2008 losing effort and Bush by 16 in a narrow victory.
Yep, the centre seems to be holding nicely for the president
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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Quote from: Democratic Hawk on February 01, 2012, 03:19:35 pm
Quote from: King on February 01, 2012, 02:19:45 pm
Looking deeper into the results, I can't see how Obama loses this election.
He has a 61% approval rating in this state with people who classify themselves as moderate
, meanwhile the favorability among moderates is Gingrich -53, Romney -33, Santorum -31, Paul -29.
Worse yet, Obama leads Gingrich, Paul and Romney among seniors, which McCain carried by 11 points in a 2008 losing effort and Bush by 16 in a narrow victory.
Yep, the centre seems to be holding nicely for the president
I'd expect that, since about 40% of America self-identifies as conservative and over 30% as moderate, meaning that there are more moderates who would be to the left of a theoretical American 'mean' (self-identification-wise if not policy-wise) than right of it. It's still good to know, particularly with how it translates on to the 'independent' political bloc.
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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February 01, 2012, 03:29:28 pm »
I'm not surprised. Romney is not a midwestern candidate. That said, if the economy doesn't get worse, the GOP isn't winning regardless of who they nominate just like the GOP wasn't winning in 2008 regardless of who they nominated. McCain would've won the election had the economy not collapsed in September.
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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February 01, 2012, 03:59:58 pm »
Yeah, I don't see any chance for victory. Obama has been a successful president, and the electoral map has simply moved away from the Republicans. I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP doesn't win anymore presidential elections. I think Romney would really be an amazing president, but it looks like we won't get a chance to see. I just hate to see pbrower win.
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Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on February 01, 2012, 03:59:58 pm
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP doesn't win anymore presidential elections.
Do they really deserve to?
Of course the Democrats need viable opposition, but the country deserves better than the GOP.
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Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on February 01, 2012, 03:59:58 pm
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP doesn't win anymore presidential elections.
I'm trying to figure out if this sentence is hyperbolic, if you have a perspective on the future of the party system that I might not, or if it's supposed to be an indication that the whole comment is less than entirely serious.
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Re: Obama up 7 against Romney in Ohio
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Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on February 01, 2012, 03:59:58 pm
Yeah, I don't see any chance for victory. Obama has been a successful president, and the electoral map has simply moved away from the Republicans.
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP doesn't win anymore presidential elections
. I think Romney would really be an amazing president, but it looks like we won't get a chance to see. I just hate to see pbrower win.
I think they will have the White House in 2016, they have a very good field while the Democrats would be a bit weaker.
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Quote from: Yank2133 on February 01, 2012, 04:13:29 pm
I think they will have the White House in 2016, they have a very good field while the Democrats would be a bit weaker.
Who does the GOP have who's any good?
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