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« Reply #450 on: September 01, 2016, 10:55:38 PM »

Without any political sympathy to Dilma or PT, I have to say that I am very disappointed, though not surprized. Dilma should have been defeated on election day. This is a misuse of the impeachment clauses of the constitution, which will make Brazil both more corrupt and less governable. I would not call this a coup - I concede, it was legally done. But it is dramatic failure of statesmanship by Brazil´s political class.

Frankly, after this, it would be better to abolish the executive presidency with a proper constitutional reform. From now on, in any case, Brazilian president serves at the pleasure of the parliament. So be it. But it should be done properly: the constitution should be changed accordingly.
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« Reply #451 on: September 02, 2016, 11:22:21 PM »

Repression is starting in Brazil. Sao Paulo's police repressed anti-Temer acts with ferocious methods. They used gas bombs and rubber bullets against demonstrators. Deborah Fabri, 19, student, lost eye view because of a rubber bullet against her. In Rio Grande do Sul, Mauro Rogerio Silva dos Santos, a lawyer was assaulted by policemen while he tried to prevent agressions against demonstrators. His son reacted against a policeman and was charged of a manslaughter attempt! He was tortured with attempts of asphyxia and death threats by policemen. And he's black, another factor that made torture stronger.

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In Salvador, there are anti-Temer acts everyday.
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« Reply #452 on: September 02, 2016, 11:42:40 PM »

For the Americans who read this thread, imagine the following situation, an analogy for Dilma's impeachment:

Consider that the USA has a Democratic president and a Republican strong majority in both houses of the Congress. The vice president is a conservative Democrat who has close ties to Republican leaders. The Democratic president accepted this ticket in the election in order to have centrist votes. There is an economic crisis. The president wants to increase taxes in order to reduce the budget deficits. The Congress wants to cut spending in welfare. No agreement is reached. Then, the Congress finds a minor mistake commited by the president as an excuse to impeach him. The conservative Democrat VP becomes the president and appoints top Republican leaders to be secretaries. He leads a conservative administration supported by the Republicans in the Congress. Since the USA is a more serious country, I don't believe this situation could happen there.
In Brazil, party presidents are very powerful. If they don't like a thing, party hardly will go for it. Temer was President of PMDB and Speaker of Chamber in 2010. And Temer wing remained very close to PSDB until 2006 (I remember Temer standing behind Alckmin in 2006 concession speech).
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« Reply #453 on: September 04, 2016, 10:37:42 PM »

There were demonstrations in many state capitals calling for Michel Temer's resignation and new presidential election.
In São Paulo, there were 100.000 demonstrators. After a peaceful rally, the riot police started the violence.
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« Reply #454 on: September 05, 2016, 10:23:38 PM »

There were demonstrations in many state capitals calling for Michel Temer's resignation and new presidential election.
In São Paulo, there were 100.000 demonstrators. After a peaceful rally, the riot police started the violence.
In previous day, effective illegitimate president said that acts were made only by "40 persons who only break cars".
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« Reply #455 on: September 13, 2016, 03:39:02 PM »

Interesting thing I've just noticed:

Since 1985, there were three Presidents from PMDB, none of them actually elected:

First, Jose Sarney, a military regime fellow traveller who switched to MDB due to opposing Maluf's candidacy. He became Neves' running-mate and, as it happened, had to take over from the very start.

Then we have Itamar Franco, who actually left PMDB to be Collor's running mate, but rejoined during his Vice Presidency.

And now we've got third unelected PMDB President. I guess only Itamar can be described as "decent" from this bunch.
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« Reply #456 on: September 13, 2016, 10:48:33 PM »

In last Monday, former Speaker and coup's mastermind Eduardo Cunha (still PMDB-RJ) was expelled from Chamber of Deputies by 450 to 10 voting. 9 abstained (including Majority Leader André Moura, one of most loyal Cunha allies) and 43 were absent. Carlos Marun (PMDB-MS) was the only to speak in his favour, while Edson Moreira (PR-MG) spoke and abstained.  Speaker Rodrigo Maia (DEM-RJ) didn't vote. Cunha after voting said that his expulsion from congress was made by a coalition between Temer, Maia, PT and allies. Many people in Temer's government fear a Cunha plea bargain.
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« Reply #457 on: September 14, 2016, 05:07:05 AM »

One thing I just can't comprehend...

Temer was allowed to take office in August, despite being found guilty of breaking campaign finance rules in June. He's thus banned from running for any office for the next eight years, but somehow it's OK for him to take over as President.

Mind blown.
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« Reply #458 on: September 14, 2016, 08:11:56 PM »

One thing I just can't comprehend...

Temer was allowed to take office in August, despite being found guilty of breaking campaign finance rules in June. He's thus banned from running for any office for the next eight years, but somehow it's OK for him to take over as President.

Mind blown.
In judicial brazilian system, an electoral crime is a different to a common crime. And Temer was found guilty by 2nd degree trial who makes him a "dirty sheet" politician. But he's appealing this decision. Today, Regional Electoral Court of Sao Paulo is trying a similar case that can alter Temer's situation.
Today, "Car Wash" prosecutors indicted former President Luis Inacio Lula da Silva for passive bribery and money laundering along former First Lady Marisa Leticia, aide Paulo Okamoto and people linked to builder OAS. In a power point full of mistakes, like "proinocracy", prosecutors tried to show that Lula received bribes and was maximum commander of Petrobras corruption scheme. This case is very weak, but "Car Wash" judge Moro is very likely to accept denounce and to find guilty, while PSDB politicians sleep soundly.
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« Reply #459 on: September 15, 2016, 04:04:32 AM »

One thing I just can't comprehend...

Temer was allowed to take office in August, despite being found guilty of breaking campaign finance rules in June. He's thus banned from running for any office for the next eight years, but somehow it's OK for him to take over as President.

Mind blown.
In judicial brazilian system, an electoral crime is a different to a common crime. And Temer was found guilty by 2nd degree trial who makes him a "dirty sheet" politician. But he's appealing this decision. Today, Regional Electoral Court of Sao Paulo is trying a similar case that can alter Temer's situation.

This is quite ironic that Temer can't run for office yet succeeed the Presidency, while Dilma was impeached but no such restrictions were imposed on her.
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« Reply #460 on: September 15, 2016, 09:42:45 PM »

Brazilian picture Aquarius will not run to be Academy Awards nominee in foreign language movie.
A commission created by the Ministry of Culture is in charge of choosing the picture to run for the Academy Awards nominee. The cast of Aquarius made a protest against Dilma's impeachment in Cannes in may. Temer's ministry of culture Marcelo Calero chose, Petrucelli, a right-wing journalist to be in charge of this commission. Petrucelli wrote colums criticizing Aquarius's cast.
After 10 days in the movie theaters in Brazil, Aquarius had an audience of 200K. This is a lot according to Brazilian standards. We live in a country where most of the population is poor and don't go to the movie theater often. The picture choosen by the Ministry of Culture is not in the Brazilian movie theaters yet.
It is clear that the veto of the Picture Aquarius was a political avengement committed by Temer's Ministry of Culture.

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« Reply #461 on: September 15, 2016, 10:23:22 PM »

I'm sorry Brazil is turning into another Poland.
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« Reply #462 on: September 19, 2016, 06:45:21 PM »

I'm sorry Brazil is turning into another Poland.

Sure.
Brazil became a far conservative island like Poland, Hungary, Colombia, Honduras, Uganda and Israel.
Colombia is getting better, Brazil is getting worse.
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« Reply #463 on: September 30, 2016, 07:42:29 AM »

I'm sorry Brazil is turning into another Poland.

Sure.
Brazil became a far conservative island like Poland, Hungary, Colombia, Honduras, Uganda and Israel.
Colombia is getting better, Brazil is getting worse.

I was referring to that specific Ministry of Culture move, which sounds something our Ministry would do.
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« Reply #464 on: October 01, 2016, 09:49:55 AM »

The more I'm reading about the whole thing, the more bad irony I see

1. Collor, who was himself impeached in 1992, votes to remove Dilma, while being investigated for Cash Wash.
2. Aecio, the guy Dilma defeated, got the opportunity to vote to remove her, while possibly being involved in Cash Wash too.
3. Serra, another guy Dilma beat, pretty much voted to keep himself as Temer's foreign minister.
4. Dilma was removed from office, but her political rights remains intact. Temer becomes President, but he's prohibited from running for anything in the next 8 years due to campaign violations.

I mean, this is f**ked up.
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« Reply #465 on: October 13, 2016, 09:16:04 PM »

Far right groups have already scheduled a pro-Trump rally which will take place on October 29th, at downtown São Paulo. They will rally against Hillary Clinton, the "American Dilma".
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« Reply #466 on: October 13, 2016, 09:31:28 PM »

Far right groups have already scheduled a pro-Trump rally which will take place on October 29th, at downtown São Paulo. They will rally against Hillary Clinton, the "American Dilma".
They're so dumb. As all of Brazilian right. Hillary supports American Free Trade Agreement, received money from Itau (Brazilian largest private bank), and Bill have good relations with PSDB. She's all that coupist government wants.
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« Reply #467 on: October 17, 2016, 06:56:06 PM »

In a dialogue in a Brazilian soap opera in 1998, a rich couple was discussing at the dinner table. The wife was defending the strengh of the women.
When the couple was talking about Bill Clinton's sexual scandal, they started discussing Hillary's role.
The lady told at 3:00
"One day, Hillary Clinton will be candidate and she will be the first US female president"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOOErHobcr0
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« Reply #468 on: November 25, 2016, 07:17:06 AM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-38100264

Temer being accused of corruption.
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« Reply #469 on: November 25, 2016, 08:35:14 PM »

Temer's potato is being baked
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« Reply #470 on: November 30, 2016, 07:39:13 PM »

The Senate approved a constitutional amendment that forbids the federal government to increase its spending in real values for the next 20 years.
The authors of this proposal declared that the goal is to eliminate the budget deficit. Considering that the economy will recover, the stagnated spending and the increasing revenue will eliminate the deficit. But probably, the deficit will be eliminated in the next 5 years. This amendment is valid for 20 years. So, after these 5 years, we will have increasing surpluses... or tax cuts.
The real goal of this amendment is using the people's panic about the deficit and crisis in order to slash the welfare state, in order to create a "small government".
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« Reply #471 on: January 19, 2017, 05:54:16 PM »

Judge of Supreme Court Teori Zavascki died in a plane crash.
He was in charge of the "Lava Jato"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-38685289
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« Reply #472 on: January 19, 2017, 09:26:47 PM »

Judge of Supreme Court Teori Zavascki died in a plane crash.
He was in charge of the "Lava Jato"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-38685289

Brazilian "Pelican Brief" is happening. By Supreme Court rules, Zavascki's replacement (to be named by illegitimate president Michel #foratemer will manage Car Wash inquiry. Temer's government leader and PMDB president Romero Jucá (PMDB-RR) in one tapes recorded by former senator and Transpetro Sergio Machado (PMDB-CE) who made a plea bargain...
MACHADO: "A way is to get someone with a link with Teori, but it looks that he doesn't have anyone.
JUCÁ: No one. He's a closed guy. A sh**t bureaucrat.
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« Reply #473 on: February 02, 2017, 06:05:42 PM »

Lula's wife Marisa Leticia, former first lady, passed away. She had a stroke.
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« Reply #474 on: February 06, 2017, 11:44:06 PM »

Michel Temer picked the minister of Justice Alexandre de Moraes to the Supreme Court, in order to replace Teori Zavascki.
Alexandre de Moraes is conservative and he is a close political ally of Michel Temer. The Supreme Court might be in charge to judge members of Temer's administration due to corruption acusations.
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