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« on: February 02, 2012, 03:19:15 PM »
« edited: March 06, 2012, 03:00:46 AM by Assemblyman & Queen Mum Inks.LWC »

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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 03:21:01 PM »

I propose the following amendment:

Section 4 is removed.
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 10:06:02 AM »

I propose the following amendment:

Section 4 is removed.

If we remove Section 4, what should happen to adults filing on behalf of children who fail a drug test?
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 09:29:36 AM »

I think we need to determined whether a person failing a drug test is fit to take care of a child in the first place. After all, if we're going to deny them their child's benefits and have them delivered via another relative, what's the point of leaving them in their original parent's drug addicted care in the first place?
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 03:37:25 AM »

This is a serious proposal? Sad
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 04:08:54 PM »

Do the original proponents have suggestions as to a course of action?
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 04:30:57 PM »

Do the original proponents have suggestions as to a course of action?

Let's vote on the amendment you proposed (remove section 4). If this is the only way to get the bill signed, I will support it.
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2012, 03:18:16 PM »

Voting is now open on the amendment.  Members will vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.  This will be a 48-hour vote.
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2012, 03:18:42 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2012, 03:46:18 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2012, 05:23:19 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 10:46:34 PM »

Voting is now closed.  The AYEs are 3, and the NAYs are 0, with 2 not voting.  The AYEs have it and the amendment is passed.  The legislation now reads as follows:

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2012, 10:44:02 AM »

Sorry for invasion, but can I use your text to introduce similar proposal in the IDS Legislature?
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2012, 11:13:05 AM »

Sorry for invasion, but can I use your text to introduce similar proposal in the IDS Legislature?

Go ahead! There's no copyright on bills as far as I know. Wink
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2012, 10:49:08 PM »

I think this is unnecessarily harsh. Why are you making people pay the costs for their own drug tests up front?  If they are in such dire straights that they are applying for assistance, this may not be many they can easily spare.  Also, three years is a long time to punish someone for a couple failed drug tests.
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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2012, 04:32:35 AM »

I think this is unnecessarily harsh. Why are you making people pay the costs for their own drug tests up front?  If they are in such dire straights that they are applying for assistance, this may not be many they can easily spare.  Also, three years is a long time to punish someone for a couple failed drug tests.

First of all, only people with a past drug conviction have to take such a drug screening test when they apply for governmental income assistance. This already reduces the number of people who are affected by this bill to a considerable extent. Also, in contrast to many US states, the legal status of marijuana in the Mideast leads to a lower number of people who potentially have a drug conviction and thus have to take this test.

Secondly, individuals who produce a clean test will get their money back. All they have to do is pay for the test in the first place, but I think this is reasonable since the average basic cost of a drug test is, as far as I read, only a few dozen dollars. And I do believe that the three-year exclusion from welfare benefits is justified in case a former drug convict fails the test repeatedly. But that is a subjective point of view, and it is clear to me that this may seem harsh to some. As far as I know, this part is based on the respective bill from Florida, which has served as a model for this piece of legislation.
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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2012, 06:47:45 PM »

Any further debate/amendments?
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2012, 12:53:54 AM »

Seeing no further debate, the bill is now brought to a final vote.  Members will vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.  This will be a 48-hour vote.
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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2012, 12:54:32 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2012, 06:58:43 AM »

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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2012, 06:27:33 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2012, 03:51:48 AM »

Voting is now closed.  The AYEs are 3, and the NAYs are 0, with 2 not voting.  The AYEs have it, and the bill is passed.  The bill is now passed onto the Governor for his signature.
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« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2012, 03:50:36 PM »

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