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Battle of the Extremists! Bernie Sanders (I-VT) vs Ron Paul (R-TX)
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Re: Battle of the Extremists! Bernie Sanders (I-VT) vs Ron Paul (R-TX)
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February 02, 2012, 05:22:31 pm »
Sanders/Sanders
A fairly close race, and depressed turn out on both sides could swing it either way.
The important thing to realize is that, while Paul's ideology is a departure from the Republican norm, Sanders' is simply an intensification of the Democratic one. This would probably result in Sanders receiving significantly more support from donors and the establishment. A third (or rather fourth) party might do fairly well.
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Re: Battle of the Extremists! Bernie Sanders (I-VT) vs Ron Paul (R-TX)
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February 02, 2012, 06:51:04 pm »
A close but clear Sanders victory. Sanders is fairly pro-Israel, so that'll likely help in Florida. And I think he's likely to play well in the Midwest. I hedged a bit on Nevada, Maine, and New Hampshire, but they wouldn't be able to switch the balance.
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Re: Battle of the Extremists! Bernie Sanders (I-VT) vs Ron Paul (R-TX)
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Not to advertise in someone's thread, but I have a TL like this
. I think they'd split the hipster vote, with Paul winning in a landslide because of his superior name recognition.
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Re: Battle of the Extremists! Bernie Sanders (I-VT) vs Ron Paul (R-TX)
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February 04, 2012, 09:36:15 am »
Arizona's a pretty Jewish state and I think Sander's Worker's Rights coalition would carry West Virginia. Paul takes most of the cowboy country and loses Nevada by the slimmest of margins. Likewise Sanders in New Hampshire and Maine's 1st CD.
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Re: Battle of the Extremists! Bernie Sanders (I-VT) vs Ron Paul (R-TX)
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February 04, 2012, 10:21:54 am »
Very close race. I think Sanders would narrowly prevail, eventually. Even though Paul would carry a slim majority of independents, I think he would demobilize republican voters more than Sanders would for democrats.
Sanders (Progressive) : 50.5%, 273 EVs
Paul (Libertarian) : 49.5%, 265 EVs
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Re: Battle of the Extremists! Bernie Sanders (I-VT) vs Ron Paul (R-TX)
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Quote from: Antonio V on February 04, 2012, 10:21:54 am
Very close race. I think Sanders would narrowly prevail, eventually. Even though Paul would carry a slim majority of independents, I think he would demobilize republican voters more than Sanders would for democrats.
Sanders (Progressive) : 50.5%, 273 EVs
Paul (Libertarian) : 49.5%, 265 EVs
No way Sanders would lose California.
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Re: Battle of the Extremists! Bernie Sanders (I-VT) vs Ron Paul (R-TX)
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Quote from: Snowstalker on February 04, 2012, 10:33:54 am
Quote from: Antonio V on February 04, 2012, 10:21:54 am
Very close race. I think Sanders would narrowly prevail, eventually. Even though Paul would carry a slim majority of independents, I think he would demobilize republican voters more than Sanders would for democrats.
Sanders (Progressive) : 50.5%, 273 EVs
Paul (Libertarian) : 49.5%, 265 EVs
No way Sanders would lose California.
Aren't liberals there fiscally moderate ?
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Quote from: Antonio V on February 07, 2012, 03:01:08 pm
Quote from: Snowstalker on February 04, 2012, 10:33:54 am
Quote from: Antonio V on February 04, 2012, 10:21:54 am
Very close race. I think Sanders would narrowly prevail, eventually. Even though Paul would carry a slim majority of independents, I think he would demobilize republican voters more than Sanders would for democrats.
Sanders (Progressive) : 50.5%, 273 EVs
Paul (Libertarian) : 49.5%, 265 EVs
No way Sanders would lose California.
Aren't liberals there fiscally moderate ?
Yes. We are so crawling with Democrats over here that there is a fiscally responsible majority in the Democratic party, while us Republicans are still filled with nixonites. Case in point: contrast Jerry Brown with Arnold. Just think about it...the Democrats here are better Republicans than the Republicans!
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Re: Battle of the Extremists! Bernie Sanders (I-VT) vs Ron Paul (R-TX)
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February 27, 2012, 05:08:59 pm »
Closest states:
WV, CO, IA, VA, NV, ME2
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February 27, 2012, 08:42:11 pm »
I doubt socialist sanders would make it past 40% in Florida, and Nevada and New Mexico are very libertarian.
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Re: Battle of the Extremists! Bernie Sanders (I-VT) vs Ron Paul (R-TX)
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i would like to play, but i don"t know at all who is bernie sanders (ok, going to wiki)
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Ron Paul
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Ron Paul would not win every state. Maybe 49 of 50, but no way he wins Vermont.
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Quote from: Hatman on April 13, 2012, 02:35:29 pm
Ron Paul would not win every state. Maybe 49 of 50, but no way he wins Vermont.
Do you people realize how many women hate Paul, right? Gigantic gender gap
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Quote from: mondale84 on April 13, 2012, 05:57:30 pm
Quote from: Hatman on April 13, 2012, 02:35:29 pm
Ron Paul would not win every state. Maybe 49 of 50, but no way he wins Vermont.
Do you people realize how many women hate Paul, right? Gigantic gender gap
Im afraid I have to call bullsh*t on you there. Against the president, he won 47% of women to 49%. Add in some socialist sprinkles for another 2-3%. Then -10% for their aftertaste.
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