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jfern
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« on: January 06, 2005, 03:23:27 PM »

This is really, really, really bad precedent if the Democrats do this. We do not want to even hint that Congress can un-do a Presidential election because they don't like the results. There could be a full-blown Constitutional crisis in the future when it transpires that the Congress is not controlled by the same party as the evident Presidential victor, and the party with the Congressional majority seeks to overturn the election.

Let me ask this: we hear how much is demanded of Bush to "reach out" and include Democrats in his decision making. How in the heck can a baseless challenge to his election do anything but spoil a spirit of co-operation?

Bush reached out? What crack are you smoking?
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jfern
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2005, 04:16:22 PM »

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Our democracy died December 12th, 2000.
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2005, 04:17:13 PM »

Can anyone name ONE THING that Bush has done to "reach out"?
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jfern
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2005, 04:21:09 PM »

The Department of Homeland Security and the perscription drugs bill.

The Democrats came up with a Dept. of Homeland Security plan right after 9/11.

Bush's Dept. of Homeland Security bill had anti-labor provisions, and his Dept. of Homeland Security is run by partisan Republicans.

Bush's medicare plan was a handout out to drug companies (no controls over drug prices).

Both of those make me angry. Try again.
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jfern
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2005, 04:22:24 PM »

I'm just asking for ONE THING, and I haven't heard it, because Bush is the most partisan, polarizing resident in US history.

Republicans whining about his stolen election being contested - priceless.
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2005, 04:27:21 PM »

Like I said - the Department of Homeland Security was reaching out to Democrats.

Price controls are unconstitutional and would likely have been struck down by the Supreme Court anyway.

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In case you haven't noticed, you're the only one here who thinks it was stolen.
No one here with a D avatar thinks it's fair.
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jfern
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2005, 04:29:51 PM »

This is really, really, really bad precedent if the Democrats do this. We do not want to even hint that Congress can un-do a Presidential election because they don't like the results. There could be a full-blown Constitutional crisis in the future when it transpires that the Congress is not controlled by the same party as the evident Presidential victor, and the party with the Congressional majority seeks to overturn the election.

Let me ask this: we hear how much is demanded of Bush to "reach out" and include Democrats in his decision making. How in the heck can a baseless challenge to his election do anything but spoil a spirit of co-operation?

Bush reached out? What crack are you smoking?

Once again jFRAUD has shown in many limitations.  Even if all 93,000 votes were found to have been for Kerry, Bush still would have carried Ohio.  We now have demostrated that not only jFRAUD's reading skills are lacking, but so are his mathematical ones.

As for "reaching out" the "No Child Left Behind" Act was both a centerpiece of the Bush domestic policy and had bipartisan support.  I read some place that one of it's supporters was Ted Kennedy, and I kinda think that possibly he might be a Democrat.

Yeah, I have no mathematical skills, right.  Hahahahaha.
Ted Kennedy later said that supporting that was a mistake.
Teaching students just how to pass some dumb multiple choice test is not the best way to learn.
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jfern
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2005, 04:31:28 PM »

Here is an interesting quote from the article cited in the first part of the thread.  Some people looking at it "found no evidence that would change the outcome of the election."   Those people were Kerrry and his attornies.


If there's ever a murder, you'll say that there's no evidence that there's anything that would bring the person back to life.
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jfern
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2005, 04:49:10 PM »

Yeah, I have no mathematical skills, right.  Hahahahaha.

I'm glad you realize you are mathematically challenged.  If it will help I will be happy to explain to you how subtration works

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Are you suggesting that democrates are flipfloppers?  Oh my!

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It is fairly to tell that you went to a school system where there was no testing at all.

Oh yeah, that's why I'm in grad school.
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2005, 05:04:15 PM »

If Ted Kennedy changed his mind about No Child Left Behind, that is his problem. Bush clearly reached out to Kennedy and Kennedy accepted. This counts as Bush reaching out, whether any other poster "likes" it or not.

Ted Kennedy said trusting Bush on NCLB was a mistake.
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jfern
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2005, 05:14:26 PM »

Yeah, I have no mathematical skills, right.  Hahahahaha.

I'm glad you realize you are mathematically challenged.  If it will help I will be happy to explain to you how subtration works

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Are you suggesting that democrates are flipfloppers?  Oh my!

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It is fairly to tell that you went to a school system where there was no testing at all.

Oh yeah, that's why I'm in grad school.

Exceptionally low standard, obviously. 

Do you ever having anything useful to say, J. Juvenile?
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jfern
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2005, 07:22:34 PM »

Quit whining fern.  Your candidate got beat.  End of story.  Your crybaby whining on this board day after day is pathetic.

The problems with jFRAUD is that he is too immature to understand this.  He does even read the links he sites.

Ironically, even the Congress members today, who raised the Ohio issue (again the Loony Left) said that the did it not to challenge the results, but to call attention to what the preceived as voting problems, e.g. long lines.

There were very long lines at my polling place at 7:00 AM on Election Day, largely because a pretty sizable percent of the voters showed up at the same time.  When I voted at about 2:15 PM, I was the only voter at the polls; somebody else came in as I was voting.  This is the kind of problem the Loony Left, like j FRAUD, of the party complain about when they complain.

I would use the words "Loony Left" to describe this branch.  It doesn't represent the Congressional Democratic leadership here or Kerry himself, just the fringe group.

Pollworkers per voter were higher in minority areas.
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jfern
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2005, 10:46:07 PM »

Um, so? If you're legally able to vote, you won't have any problems with pollworkers.

If you're in a 10 hour long line, you might have a problem with the lack of them and/or voting machines.
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jfern
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2005, 11:25:18 PM »

I wish we could have had a fair election.   Like, say, the election in Washington.  LOL

Yeah, Democrats are only interested in having a fair election process.  Yeah, that's it.

Maybe Dems can get those King County election officials to run the Ohio vote in 2008.  That would insure an accurate count for sure - in the tradition of Mayor Daley and Duval County, Texas.  Dems have ALWAYS just been interested in a fair and accurate counting of every vote.

Bunch of phonies.

Q: What do Florida 2000, Ohio 2004, and Washington 2004 all have in common?

A: They were all certified by a Republican secretary of state
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2005, 11:56:10 PM »

If the Democrats had just wanted to be obstructionists, they would have challenged Wyoming, Alaska, Idaho, and so on.
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