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Question: Opinion of the fashion style of Mormon missionaries
Very Positive   -7 (31.8%)
Positive   -2 (9.1%)
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Very Negative   -5 (22.7%)
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« on: February 06, 2012, 01:00:17 pm »
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Very negative. Gah it's horrendous. On the plus side it makes them easy to identify...and ignore.
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2012, 01:27:22 pm »
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Very negative. Suit jackets are too big, their pants are baggy and could be hemmed better, their shoes look cheap, and their ties are ugly and not tied properly.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2012, 01:38:20 pm »
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The biggest problem is the lack of different summer and winter uniforms and respect for local climate differences.  If you dress the same on a mission trip to Tuscon in July and Duluth in January, you have a problem.
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2012, 01:57:52 pm »
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Are they not allowed to wear overcoats in the winter or cotton/linen suits in the summer?
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 03:08:44 pm »
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Better than what most wear, so one must give them credit for that. But goodness, those ties are far too short and those suits horrendously ill-fitting.

Mikado, couldn't a black seersucker, linen, or cotton suit for summer and wool for winter solve the problem? A three button wool suit with a heavy dress shirt, buttoned, would keep you rather warm, and vice versa.

RETROSPECTIVE EDIT: Of course, the most common outfit worn by Mormon missionaries are dark trousers, short-sleeve shirt, and tie, which is peculiar both in the sense that it is, while admirable as an attempt at formality, it is an odd and decidedly unstylish combination, and in that it is a combination worn mostly by Mormon missionaries to such an extent that it serves as a unique identifier. More than once have I seen men on the street who simply give off the impression of being Mormon missionaries-- and almost always are-- before I actively realise it's the particular combination of clothes.

I voted positive, would probably vote neutral now. While from a strictly sartorial perspective it'd clearly be negative (there can be worse), the sentiment is to be appreciated, and, far more importantly, it must be considered that this is a BRTD thread and just what kind of clothes BRTD would have a "very positive" opinion of.
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 03:18:05 pm »
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Very. Very. Negative!
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 05:27:05 pm »
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Why do they wear ties anyway? I would be significantly far less likely to listen to someone wearing a tie than someone not.
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2012, 05:30:26 pm »
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Why do they wear ties anyway? I would be significantly far less likely to listen to someone wearing a tie than someone not.
Those guys in the picture don't give two sh**ts about your, BRTD.
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2012, 05:36:57 pm »
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Why do they wear ties anyway? I would be significantly far less likely to listen to someone wearing a tie than someone not.
Those guys in the picture don't give two sh**ts about your, BRTD.

If they ever met me they theoretically should, as their goal is to convert me to Mormonism.
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2012, 05:47:02 pm »
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Here they do dispense with the jackets and do wear shirt sleeved shirts (these two alterations making the ties look even worse).
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2012, 05:47:18 pm »
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Why do they wear ties anyway? I would be significantly far less likely to listen to someone wearing a tie than someone not.
Those guys in the picture don't give two sh**ts about your, BRTD.

If they ever met me they theoretically should, as their goal is to convert me to Mormonism.
Perhaps if you made a big deal about it, they would take the ties off.  My point is they aren't posing for you.
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2012, 05:50:12 pm »
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Why do they wear ties anyway? I would be significantly far less likely to listen to someone wearing a tie than someone not.
Those guys in the picture don't give two sh**ts about your, BRTD.

If they ever met me they theoretically should, as their goal is to convert me to Mormonism.
Perhaps if you made a big deal about it, they would take the ties off.  My point is they aren't posing for you.

Too late. First impressions are everything. Do you think I'd be so into Jesus Christ now if all Christians preached wearing suits and ties?
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2012, 05:55:34 pm »
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Crime #1: the suits are terribly ill-fitting
Crime #2: the ties end should just sit on the belt buckle.
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2012, 06:29:18 pm »
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Why do they wear ties anyway? I would be significantly far less likely to listen to someone wearing a tie than someone not.
Those guys in the picture don't give two sh**ts about your, BRTD.

If they ever met me they theoretically should, as their goal is to convert me to Mormonism.
Perhaps if you made a big deal about it, they would take the ties off.  My point is they aren't posing for you.

Too late. First impressions are everything. Do you think I'd be so into Jesus Christ now if all Christians preached wearing suits and ties?
No, because your only concern is being hip.  Lucky for you, being a Christian won't save you, or anyone else, from Hell.
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2012, 06:34:23 pm »
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BRTD, you are an HP. Those who lambaste ties and suits are at the vanguard of the destruction of society. They are the hallmarks of civilization, of culture, and you hold a contempt for them matched only by my approbatory fervor. I respect you, but I can never like you as long as that remains your position.



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And so is this guy HRH The Prince of Wales. It also helps the tailor is called- well, what do you think?

RETROSPECTIVE EDIT:  BRTD's fashion preferences remain inane and ridiculous. I have no recollection as to who the men whose pictures I originally posted were, but I assume the tailor which I refer to is Huntsman, which, as with my adoration of Jon Huntsman, is no longer obvious, a Savile Row tailoring house best known for their one-button jackets.

I instead chose President Obama and the Prince of Wales, two men who clearly have different stylistic senses-- largely informed by personal context-- but are both well dressed. Obama has grown on me, at least in terms of what he wears-- his style exemplifies the conservative business attire worn by white-collar professionals. He sets a good example for what to wear to work. While I am probably a greater fan of the Prince of Wales's fashion sense than Obama's, my own sartorial choices will resemble Obama's far more than they will the PoW's, at least while I'm young and a low-level member of whatever organization I end up working for.

More... expressive "business" attire (the technical yet misleading term is "informal") looks better as one grows older and wiser, Bill Clinton is a very good example of this. Fanciness does not equal formality, which is something I've become more aware of over the years (the bowtie being a good example of this). Trying to dress like the Prince would at best make me a young dandy at best and look as if I was dressed in an old man's clothes at worst. There is a suit for all seasons; they allow for far more diversity than BRTD's band shirts.
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2012, 06:52:03 pm »
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I could not agree more with the above post.
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2012, 07:30:36 pm »
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I have said before that if I ever go to a church and the pastor is wearing a tie, I'm walking about, period. It is never acceptable. Same thing if I were a Jew going to synagogue and the rabbi was wearing a tie.
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2012, 07:35:57 pm »

...and it's yet another predictably BRTD thread.
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2012, 07:53:47 pm »
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BRTD, you are an HP. Those who lambaste ties and suits are at the vanguard of the destruction of society. They are the hallmarks of civilization, of culture, and you hold a contempt for them matched only by my approbatory fervor. I respect you, but I can never like you as long as that remains your position.



Now this is an FF.



And so is this guy. It also helps the tailor is called- well, what do you think?
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2012, 08:05:05 pm »

Simfan, you remind me of Barney from "How I met your mother".
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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2012, 08:15:54 pm »
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I love how the one guy's jacket is big enough to be a coat.
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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2012, 08:58:13 pm »
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The suits are a lot less strange than this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_underwear
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2012, 08:59:52 pm »
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I love how the one guy's jacket is big enough to be a coat.

What are you talking about?
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2012, 09:00:47 pm »
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Simfan, I salute you. You are a patriot.

Some of these people have great bow ties, which is my choice of tie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bow_tie_wearers
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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2012, 10:24:31 pm »
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I love how the one guy's jacket is big enough to be a coat.

What are you talking about?

Little man on the first picture in the thread. 'Love' meant in a mocking way, obviously.
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