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« Reply #475 on: February 08, 2012, 01:44:57 am »
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Looking at all the states results just imagine if Newt Gingrich were to drop out santorrum would destroy Romney. Take alot look at  Missouri  for instance where newt wasn't on the ballot just Romney vs santourum

Of course Gingrich being on the ballot in Minnesota didn't stop Romney from being destroyed there too.
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« Reply #476 on: February 08, 2012, 01:58:40 am »
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Minnesota being slow getting the last few votes in.  I was going to say that Paul did well in the colorful counties, Blue Earth and Red Lake, but Santorum totally owned Yellow Medicine, not to speak of Brown and Goodhue.  The Silly French Name constituency also went for Santorum largely at above-average margins, although much more so in Talking Lake than in The Sweat, with Thousand Lakes and Reed somewhere in between.
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« Reply #477 on: February 08, 2012, 02:05:08 am »
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Expected in Missoury and Minnesota, but unexpected in Colorado. I underestimated evengelical strength there...

P.S (somewhat offtopic). Personally i am an absolute  opponent of caucus system as undemocratic., unrepresentative (65 thousands votes in 4+ million Colorado, 53 thousands in 5+ million Minnesota?Huh) and, in addition, because caucuses are dominated by extreme left on Democratic side (Obama wouldn't beat Hillary if not for caucuses) and extreme right on Republican (typical Republican voter in Minnesota, Colorado and, especially, Missoury is, of course conservative, but not by so much as typical "religious right caucusgoer") their skew the real feelings of voters in their state grreatly. Primary is another matter and i am reasonably sure that under primary system Romney ("establishment candidate") would beat Santorum in Colorado and would be at least close in Minnesota..
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« Reply #478 on: February 08, 2012, 02:21:18 am »
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I think you make a great point. It's a shame that these caucuses play such a large role, because when you look at the % of people who decide the winner it really is pathetic. There should be primaries in every state... enough of this caucus stuff..

I'm not saying this because I don't want Rick Santorum to do well either... I just agree that caucuses don't represent the state as a whole well at all.


Expected in Missoury and Minnesota, but unexpected in Colorado. I underestimated evengelical strength there...

P.S (somewhat offtopic). Personally i am an absolute  opponent of caucus system as undemocratic., unrepresentative (65 thousands votes in 4+ million Colorado, 53 thousands in 5+ million Minnesota?Huh) and, in addition, because caucuses are dominated by extreme left on Democratic side (Obama wouldn't beat Hillary if not for caucuses) and extreme right on Republican (typical Republican voter in Minnesota, Colorado and, especially, Missoury is, of course conservative, but not by so much as typical "religious right caucusgoer") their skew the real feelings of voters in their state grreatly. Primary is another matter and i am reasonably sure that under primary system Romney ("establishment candidate") would beat Santorum in Colorado and would be at least close in Minnesota..
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« Reply #479 on: February 08, 2012, 03:35:56 am »
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This was an unusually bad night for PPP.

The showed a big lead for Santorum in MO, but really underestimated him in MN and had Romney up 10 in Colorado.
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« Reply #480 on: February 08, 2012, 04:37:14 am »
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Oh wow Colorado.
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« Reply #481 on: February 08, 2012, 06:18:15 am »
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I think I saw John King and his board suggesting turnout was 1-2% of 2008 turnout in some CO counties. Looking at the Atlas 2008 results page, those numbers were erroneous.
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« Reply #482 on: February 08, 2012, 06:32:42 am »
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How embarrassing for Romney
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« Reply #483 on: February 08, 2012, 06:37:11 am »
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Santorum won every county in Missouri!  Even though it is a non-binding primary that is still bad news for Romney
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« Reply #484 on: February 08, 2012, 06:46:27 am »
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Congrats Phil!
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« Reply #485 on: February 08, 2012, 06:52:48 am »
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Wow...
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« Reply #486 on: February 08, 2012, 07:20:46 am »
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Why was Romney's best county in Missouri Pemiscot?
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« Reply #487 on: February 08, 2012, 08:03:59 am »
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What a great night! Damn I called the Colorado race pretty well at first and then backed off after I saw Douglas county. Jefferson was the biggest surprise for me. It's also a pretty upscale county consisting of Denver suburbs. Why didn't it vote like Douglas? And I guess I didn't think Santorum would get that sort of margin out of Larimer though in hindsight I should have. So what I thought would be a tied race became a commanding lead for Santorum. The rest of the primaries should be great unless moneybags buys all of them.
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« Reply #488 on: February 08, 2012, 08:06:24 am »
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Told you you should have stuck with your prediction :p
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« Reply #489 on: February 08, 2012, 11:20:45 am »
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Woke up this morning to find that Rick had swept all three (in some style too!)

LOL, Romney. Well done Rick, the more electable candidate (and Phil!)
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« Reply #490 on: February 08, 2012, 11:36:56 am »
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A corrupt anti-gay person is not more electable than Romney or even Paul.  I'm sorry.
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« Reply #491 on: February 08, 2012, 11:37:16 am »
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AAAAAAAhahahahaha!  This is awesome!  

Wow!  Santorum won all three!  Okay, you guys probably think I'm a choad for just now learning this, but I was actually busy and didn't watch any news last night, and I had some work to do this morning so I didn't check any on-line news till now.  It's all very exciting.  I guess Keystone Phil must be stoked!
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« Reply #492 on: February 08, 2012, 11:56:35 am »
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Told you you should have stuck with your prediction :p

Indeed. Too bad I had to go to sleep or else I would have waited for a couple more counties to come in. Another place that through me off was western Colorado actually, especially Mesa County. Santorum did much, much better there than I expected, although the population is small.
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« Reply #493 on: February 08, 2012, 12:02:27 pm »
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Haha. Wow.
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« Reply #494 on: February 08, 2012, 02:14:23 pm »
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A corrupt anti-gay person is not more electable than Romney or even Paul.  I'm sorry.

Yes.

Good news is that it makes more space/uncertainty for Paul, and if Santorum gets the nomination, more space for Gary Johnson.
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« Reply #495 on: February 08, 2012, 02:15:06 pm »
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I know we had a major moan about the lack of speed in NV at the weekend but even so. It is now 1.13pm CST and according to the Minnesota Secretary of State's own website only 4062 out of 4137 precincts have reported (98.2% of the total). I know that MN is a rural state and I know that it is probably under several feet of snow, but for goodness sakes, what are they using to count the votes? First graders?
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« Reply #496 on: February 08, 2012, 02:21:37 pm »
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Minnesota being slow getting the last few votes in.  I was going to say that Paul did well in the colorful counties, Blue Earth and Red Lake, but Santorum totally owned Yellow Medicine, not to speak of Brown and Goodhue.  The Silly French Name constituency also went for Santorum largely at above-average margins, although much more so in Talking Lake than in The Sweat, with Thousand Lakes and Reed somewhere in between.


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« Reply #497 on: February 08, 2012, 02:39:21 pm »
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5% left to come in in Minnesota. Good thing there's nothing left to decide. I'm glad Paul did so well in the only state he tried in. Now for fk's sake we must win Maine. HIs vote was also spread out very well across MN.
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« Reply #498 on: February 08, 2012, 02:51:43 pm »
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A corrupt anti-gay person is not more electable than Romney or even Paul.  I'm sorry.

Mitt Romney's pro-gay? Really?
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« Reply #499 on: February 08, 2012, 02:55:37 pm »
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A corrupt anti-gay person is not more electable than Romney or even Paul.  I'm sorry.

Mitt Romney's pro-gay? Really?

Congratulations!  You've just committed a logical fallacy.

Romney isn't pro-gay but he's not particularly anti-gay.  Santorum is particularly anti-gay.
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