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Question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Civil_War
Pro-treaty   -14 (45.2%)
Anti-treaty   -15 (48.4%)
Don't know   -2 (6.5%)
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« on: February 07, 2012, 01:37:47 pm »
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 04:21:27 pm »
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Pro-treaty I guess.
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 05:37:38 pm »
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Yeah, probably pro-treaty.
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 05:45:53 pm »
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Anti-treaty, though that would probably be just supporting without fighting.
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 06:17:08 pm »
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2012, 07:31:30 pm »
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Anti-treaty.  No way would I be pledging allegiance to a foreign monarch, even if he or she is there only in a symbolic role.  I would demand nothing less than complete and irrevocable independence. 
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2012, 01:00:38 pm »
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My relatives/ancestors? were anti Treaty so Id assume that. 

To me it has always been a realist vs idealist break.  The anti Treaty position was really untenable from a practical standpoint. 
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2012, 04:10:39 pm »
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I'd simpathize with the Anti-treaty but I wouldn't care enough to fight.
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2012, 12:57:18 am »
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Pro-treaty by far the best Realpolitick position as the monarch did not have much power anyway.
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2012, 06:48:31 pm »
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I'd simpathize with the Anti-treaty but I wouldn't care enough to fight.
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2012, 11:22:34 pm »
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I wouldn't be willing to fight, but I would've been anti-treaty.
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2012, 09:49:06 am »
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Anti-Treaty
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2012, 12:43:31 pm »
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Pro-treaty, take a sure 75% win, don't risk the overall goal of Irish independence.  (had the anti-treaty forces looked like winning, wouldn't that have meant the possibility of British intervention?)
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2012, 04:18:13 pm »
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Emigration.  (Seriously, 1920s Ireland)
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2012, 06:05:08 pm »
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Anti-treaty, but, seriously, what Mikado & Gully said.
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2012, 08:49:37 am »
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Anti-treaty and I would fight.
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2012, 05:13:05 pm »
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Pro-treaty of course. It was a good, sensible compromise and the most reasonable option at the time.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2012, 09:49:16 am »
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Pro-treaty of course. It was a good, sensible compromise and the most reasonable option at the time.

There was nothing 'sensible' about the anti-treaty side:

"People may have to die in this country and may have to die through starvation" - actual quote from the then (1924) minister for Industry and Commerce on the nature of his governments' economic policies.
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2012, 12:57:17 am »
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Pro-treaty of course. It was a good, sensible compromise and the most reasonable option at the time.
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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2012, 11:32:02 am »
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Anti-treaty because of the border issues.

The treaty left catholic majority counties Fermanagh and Tyrone  in Northern Ireland. Derry and Southern Armagh also had catholic majority.
Fighting might have been hopeless but the treaty was simply to unfair. 
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2012, 03:18:08 pm »
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Depends where I'd be from and who I knew and liked, don't it?
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2012, 08:38:55 am »
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Pro-treaty of course. It was a good, sensible compromise and the most reasonable option at the time.

Why "the most reasonable" option?

Btw, Lewis' answer is the best one.
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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2013, 09:11:06 pm »
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Anti-treaty, but I'd also be afraid of an Irish Republic due to the (eventually realized) possibility of the "Catholic social doctrine" having control over the Irish legal/political system.
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