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Which side would you support during the Irish Civil War?
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Pro-treaty
13 (43.3%)
Anti-treaty
15 (50%)
Don't know
2 (6.7%)
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Which side would you support during the Irish Civil War?
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February 07, 2012, 01:37:47 pm »
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Re: Which side would you support during the Irish Civil War?
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February 07, 2012, 04:21:27 pm »
Pro-treaty I guess.
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Re: Which side would you support during the Irish Civil War?
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Yeah, probably pro-treaty.
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Re: Which side would you support during the Irish Civil War?
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Anti-treaty, though that would probably be just
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Re: Which side would you support during the Irish Civil War?
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Emigration.
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Re: Which side would you support during the Irish Civil War?
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February 07, 2012, 07:31:30 pm »
Anti-treaty. No way would I be pledging allegiance to a foreign monarch, even if he or she is there only in a symbolic role. I would demand nothing less than complete and irrevocable independence.
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February 08, 2012, 01:00:38 pm »
My relatives/ancestors? were anti Treaty so Id assume that.
To me it has always been a realist vs idealist break. The anti Treaty position was really untenable from a practical standpoint.
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Re: Which side would you support during the Irish Civil War?
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I'd simpathize with the Anti-treaty but I wouldn't care enough to fight.
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Re: Which side would you support during the Irish Civil War?
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Pro-treaty by far the best Realpolitick position as the monarch did not have much power anyway.
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Quote from: Antonio V on February 08, 2012, 04:10:39 pm
I'd simpathize with the Anti-treaty but I wouldn't care enough to fight.
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I wouldn't be willing to fight, but I would've been anti-treaty.
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Re: Which side would you support during the Irish Civil War?
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Anti-Treaty
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February 27, 2012, 12:43:31 pm »
Pro-treaty, take a sure 75% win, don't risk the overall goal of Irish independence. (had the anti-treaty forces looked like winning, wouldn't that have meant the possibility of British intervention?)
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Re: Which side would you support during the Irish Civil War?
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February 28, 2012, 04:18:13 pm »
Emigration. (Seriously, 1920s Ireland)
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Anti-treaty, but, seriously, what Mikado & Gully said.
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Anti-treaty and I would fight.
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Pro-treaty of course. It was a good, sensible compromise and the most reasonable option at the time.
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Quote from: Swedish Cheese on March 02, 2012, 05:13:05 pm
Pro-treaty of course. It was a good, sensible compromise and the most reasonable option at the time.
There was nothing 'sensible' about the anti-treaty side:
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Quote from: Swedish Cheese on March 02, 2012, 05:13:05 pm
Pro-treaty of course. It was a good, sensible compromise and the most reasonable option at the time.
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Anti-treaty because of the border issues.
The treaty left catholic majority counties Fermanagh and Tyrone in Northern Ireland. Derry and Southern Armagh also had catholic majority.
Fighting might have been hopeless but the treaty was simply to unfair.
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Depends where I'd be from and who I knew and liked, don't it?
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Pro-treaty of course. It was a good, sensible compromise and the most reasonable option at the time.
Why "the most reasonable" option?
Btw, Lewis' answer is the best one.
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Anti-treaty, but I'd also be afraid of an Irish Republic due to the (eventually realized) possibility of the "Catholic social doctrine" having control over the Irish legal/political system.
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