Maine results thread.

[Joe Republic]

I think that this election cycle will spell the end of the caucus as a method of choosing delegates (especially in the GOP).

Agreed.

Why? The fiasco in Maine is due not to the caucus system, but, rather, the moral failings of the people administering the caucus. A moral administrator of a caucus would have strove to maintain an accurate count, corrected any reported errors promptly and without reservation, and, would have stated that the Washington county results would be included because the caucus there was delayed due to no fault of the Republican voters there.

Blaming "the system" and talking about changing "the system" distracts what really needs to be done: the rank-and-file Republicans of Maine need to fire their state chairman before it dawns on him to resign in disgrace.

You forgot about the disastrous Iowa and Nevada caucuses.  Seriously, we've had five caucus states thus far, and three of them have been fiascos.

An incompetent organization is only one aspect of the problem; caucuses are generally undemocratic messes.

[BigSkyBob]

Apperently, the Republican Party of Maine has decided to consider correcting any errors in the count in a timely fashion.

Another public relations disaster for the Romney campaign. Why did they think they could get away with it?

How is this a PR disaster for anybody other than the MEGOP?

Read Politico's comment in this thread. Romney became part of the problem rather than part of the solution when he sent his surrogates to say it was "over" when there were real questions about the corrrectness, and completeness, of the results.

Had Romney stated he would wait until the folks in Washington county had their chance to vote before commenting on the results it wouldn't have become the distraction it was, and, he wouldn't have pissed off the voters outstanding.

[realisticidealist]

Updated official results by town: http://www.mainegop.com/mainegop_presprefpoll_021712.pdf

Romney 2,269 (39.03%)
Paul 2,030 (34.92%)
Santorum 1,052 (18.09%)
Gingrich 391 (6.73%)
Uncommitted 59 (1.01%)
Others 13 (0.22%)

Changes:
Romney +79 (-0.18%)
Paul +34 (-0.82%)
Santorum +63 (+0.38%)
Gingrich +42 (+0.48%)

I find it a bit odd that Paul gained the least of any of the candidates in this adjustment.

[realisticidealist]

Here's the updated results by county. The columns on the far right show the change for each candidate from the original results.

[Dave Leip]

Here's the updated results by county. The columns on the far right show the change for each candidate from the original results.

They double counted Paris (Oxford County) - Paris and "South Paris" are identical - there is no Town of South Paris (in terms of county subdivision)...

[Hashemite]

This seems about as fair as an election in Russia.

[Ѕenator Αverroës]

Paulites? Romneybots? Something else?

[Landslide Lyndon]

Who cares? This election has become a travesty.

[realisticidealist]

The Hancock County caucus voted 41 Paul, Santorum 17, Romney 16, Gingrich 9, according to Bangor Daily News. The town of Clinton in Kennebec went 4 Paul, 2 Romney. Paul's gained 27 votes on Romney so far today.

If you ignore the double-counting of Paris, Paul needs about 2/3 of Washington County's attendees to win, though some more of Hancock is still out.

[Vasall des Midas]

This seems about as fair as an election in Russia.

Nyet Nyet Nyet, I will not stand for such insults of Russia's honor!

[Senator X]

When will the Washington County results be announced?

[realisticidealist]

Washington County Results (not including Pembroke which voted last week):

Paul 163
Romney 80
Santorum 57
Gingrich 4
Uncom 2

Romney still ahead of Paul by 125 votes. A few more places left to vote, but not enough for Paul to win most likely.

[LINCOLN REPUBLICAN]

All jurisdictions should move to primaries and scrap the caucus method.

Republican primaries should be open to registered Republicans only.

Democratic primaries should be open to registered Democrats only.

All jurisdictions should have delegates awarded in proportion to their percentage of the popular vote received.

The drawback I see, however, is this may lead to no candidate receiving a majority of the delegates by the time of the convention, in a hotly contested nomination race.

[BigSkyBob]

Washington County Results (not including Pembroke which voted last week):

Paul 163
Romney 80
Santorum 57
Gingrich 4
Uncom 2

Romney still ahead of Paul by 125 votes. A few more places left to vote, but not enough for Paul to win most likely.

Another black-eye for Romney! He loses two-one to a candidate he outpolled by 3% statewide last week. What a bone-headed move it was by Romney not to wait patiently for the folks in Washington County to vote. He would have had an apperently victory last week, and, a confirmed victory this week. Instead, he offended the folks in Washington county and they replied with a slap in his face.

[The Mikado]

All jurisdictions should move to primaries and scrap the caucus method.

Republican primaries should be open to registered Republicans only.

Democratic primaries should be open to registered Democrats only.

All jurisdictions should have delegates awarded in proportion to their percentage of the popular vote received.

Agreed, though with a cutoff below which you don't get any delegates.  The Dems' 15% is pretty reasonable, but I could see a case for reducing it to 10%.

[Grad Students are the Worst]

Another black-eye for Romney! He loses two-one to a candidate he outpolled by 3% statewide last week. What a bone-headed move it was by Romney not to wait patiently for the folks in Washington County to vote. He would have had an apperently victory last week, and, a confirmed victory this week. Instead, he offended the folks in Washington county and they replied with a slap in his face.

Or, more likely, the Maine GOP mobilized a small section of Paul voters who never supported Romney, in a vote Romney is (very rationally) pretending isn't happening.

[argentarius]

Paul winning Washington at all seemed strange let alone by that margin.

[realisticidealist]

Paul won the Eastbrook combined caucus as well, but no numbers are out yet.

[argentarius]

Paul won the Eastbrook combined caucus as well, but no numbers are out yet.

Could the late caucus fiasco somehow give Paul a win? That would be hilarious.

[Mehmentum]

Paul won the Eastbrook combined caucus as well, but no numbers are out yet.

Could the late caucus fiasco somehow give Paul a win? That would be hilarious.

Depends, how much of Washington is out still?

[realisticidealist]

Paul won the Eastbrook combined caucus as well, but no numbers are out yet.

Could the late caucus fiasco somehow give Paul a win? That would be hilarious.

Depends, how much of Washington is out still?

All of Washington County is in. Paul won't win, but it might be within 100 votes.

Update: Eastbrook had ~35 total votes cast.

[LINCOLN REPUBLICAN]

All jurisdictions should move to primaries and scrap the caucus method.

Republican primaries should be open to registered Republicans only.

Democratic primaries should be open to registered Democrats only.

All jurisdictions should have delegates awarded in proportion to their percentage of the popular vote received.

Agreed, though with a cutoff below which you don't get any delegates.  The Dems' 15% is pretty reasonable, but I could see a case for reducing it to 10%.

Yes, you are correct, there has to be a certain threshold before delegates can be awarded.

[realisticidealist]

Here's the updated results by county. The columns on the far right show the change for each candidate from the original results.

They double counted Paris (Oxford County) - Paris and "South Paris" are identical - there is no Town of South Paris (in terms of county subdivision)...

I've got the Bangor Daily News looking into it.

[realisticidealist]

Eastbrook voted 19 Paul, 8 Santorum, 7 Romney, 0 Gingrich. One more caucus will meet on March 3, but it will be only one small town.

Here are the up-to-date county results without the Paris double count:

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

All jurisdictions should move to primaries and scrap the caucus method.

Republican primaries should be open to registered Republicans only.

Democratic primaries should be open to registered Democrats only.

All jurisdictions should have delegates awarded in proportion to their percentage of the popular vote received.

The drawback I see, however, is this may lead to no candidate receiving a majority of the delegates by the time of the convention, in a hotly contested nomination race.

That would require states like Michigan to adopt party registration.  You can't do that without the legislature's cooperation.