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« Reply #225 on: February 14, 2012, 03:12:57 pm »
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Per @fivethirtyeight:

"Maine neglected to count results from caucuses in Waterville, and Waldo County, which were strong for Paul in 2008."

Bangor Daily Nwes - "Pressure mounting for GOP caucus reconsideration"
http://bangordailynews.com/2012/02/14/politics/elections/pressure-mounting-for-gop-caucus-reconsideration/

And it said they reversed(!) the results for Paul and Romney in Portland(!).
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« Reply #226 on: February 14, 2012, 04:13:47 pm »

GingrichPaulRomneySantorumUndecidedOtherTown Total
Belfast
0
8
5
7
0
1
21
Belmont
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
Brooks
0
5
1
0
0
0
6
Burnham**
-
-
-
-
-
-
0
Frankfort
0
5
2
0
0
0
7
Freedom**
-
-
-
-
-
-
0
Islesboro**
-
-
-
-
-
-
0
Jackson
0
0
0
3
0
0
3
Knox
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
Liberty
0
0
0
4
0
0
4
Lincolnville
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
Monroe
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
Montville
0
16
3
1
0
1
21
Morrill
0
0
2
0
0
0
2
Northport
0
3
6
2
0
0
11
Palermo
1
9
1
2
0
1
14
Prospect
0
2
0
1
0
0
3
Searsmont
3
7
0
3
0
0
13
Searsport
3
1
5
5
0
0
14
Swanville
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
Stockton Springs
0
1
9
9
0
0
19
Thorndike
0
0
0
1
0
0
1
Troy
2
2
0
0
0
0
4
Unity
2
3
9
3
1
0
18
Waldo
4
0
2
1
0
0
7
Winterport
2
2
6
6
0
0
16
Other Towns
4
8
8
8
0
0
28
Total
21
72
59
56
1
3
212

This set of results is from Waldo Village Soup and shows additional caucus votes not counted in the official Maine GOP Tally located at this page.  Lets hope that these are included in the final tally - I hate zeros...

From the Caption: "This table combines results provided by local Republican party officials, as well as those listed in a press release announcing the official statewide GOP caucus results. The row labeled "Other Towns" is a combined tally including several communities that caucused at the Feb. 4 event in Belfast, such as Lincolnville and Monroe, but which individual results were not available for."
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« Reply #227 on: February 14, 2012, 04:22:02 pm »
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Iowa Part II? I guess the National GOP knew Romney needed a boost after his hilarious string of failures last week, so they informed the Maine GOP that Romney would have to win. The Republican Party is just disgusting.
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« Reply #228 on: February 14, 2012, 05:23:11 pm »
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Dave, will you add the town results into the database at some point for these primaries/caucuses?
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« Reply #229 on: February 14, 2012, 05:38:47 pm »
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Washington, ME

Paul 14
Romney 0
Santorum 0
Gingrich 0

FP.
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« Reply #230 on: February 14, 2012, 08:29:58 pm »
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There's just not enough out there to reverse the results, even if Paul is only down by 200, I'm seeing about a quarter of that coming back.
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« Reply #231 on: February 14, 2012, 10:01:26 pm »

Dave, will you add the town results into the database at some point for these primaries/caucuses?

Hi,
The NH data was already there - I just updated the town table to include the Maine Caucus data.
I haven't done the maps yet.
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« Reply #232 on: February 14, 2012, 10:54:44 pm »
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The results have been stuck at 84% reporting due to the remaining caucuses that haven't yet taken place.  What changes are we likely to expect, if any?
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« Reply #233 on: February 15, 2012, 09:13:06 pm »
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Pretty hard proof of voter fraud or at least gross incompetence:

http://youtu.be/pqsyzTrWS0g  (news segment, yes posted by an RP supporter)
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« Reply #234 on: February 16, 2012, 09:32:05 pm »
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Apperently, the Republican Party of Maine has decided to consider correcting any errors in the count in a timely fashion.

Another public relations disaster for the Romney campaign. Why did they think they could get away with it?
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« Reply #235 on: February 16, 2012, 09:58:08 pm »
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http://www.pressherald.com/news/Maine-GOP-reportedly-recounting-caucus-votes.html
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« Reply #236 on: February 17, 2012, 07:43:57 am »
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I think that this election cycle will spell the end of the caucus as a method of choosing delegates (especially in the GOP).
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« Reply #237 on: February 17, 2012, 07:45:30 am »
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I think that this election cycle will spell the end of the caucus as a method of choosing delegates (especially in the GOP).

Agreed.
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« Reply #238 on: February 17, 2012, 07:55:54 am »
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I think that this election cycle will spell the end of the caucus as a method of choosing delegates (especially in the GOP).


One can only hope...
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« Reply #239 on: February 17, 2012, 07:57:04 am »
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I think that this election cycle will spell the end of the caucus as a method of choosing delegates (especially in the GOP).


One can only hope...
But they're fun to watch and make the GOP look bad!
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I may conceivably reconsider.

Knowing me it's more likely than not.
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« Reply #240 on: February 17, 2012, 02:58:15 pm »

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/73015.html

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Maine Republican Party chairman Charlie Webster has admitted that the state party made numerous clerical errors in counting the state’s caucus results — even omitting some votes because emails reporting tallies “went to spam” in an email account.
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« Reply #241 on: February 17, 2012, 03:00:16 pm »

I think that this election cycle will spell the end of the caucus as a method of choosing delegates (especially in the GOP).

No it won't.  It should, but it won't:

http://frontloading.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/dont-hold-your-breath-caucus-states.html
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« Reply #242 on: February 17, 2012, 03:06:00 pm »
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The Dems managed to run their caucuses perfectly fine in 2008. It's only the GOP that is full of incompetents.
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« Reply #243 on: February 17, 2012, 03:21:53 pm »
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I think that this election cycle will spell the end of the caucus as a method of choosing delegates (especially in the GOP).

Agreed.

Why? The fiasco in Maine is due not to the caucus system, but, rather, the moral failings of the people administering the caucus. A moral administrator of a caucus would have strove to maintain an accurate count, corrected any reported errors promptly and without reservation, and, would have stated that the Washington county results would be included because the caucus there was delayed due to no fault of the Republican voters there.

Blaming "the system" and talking about changing "the system" distracts what really needs to be done: the rank-and-file Republicans of Maine need to fire their state chairman before it dawns on him to resign in disgrace.
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« Reply #244 on: February 17, 2012, 03:48:13 pm »
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/17/maine-gop-chair-romney-will-maintain-win/

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"We corrected all that on Monday, in our internal paperwork. And it changed the totals a little bit in favor of Romney," Webster said.

"It increased his number by a little bit. We'll be sending that out today," the chairman added.

On Saturday, the GOP chairman's announcement showed that the former Massachusetts governor won by 194 votes over Texas Rep. Ron Paul. When pressed by CNN about the forthcoming new margin of victory, Webster would not reveal an exact number.

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"Absolutely no recount," the chairman said. "There's no way to recount. These were just slips of paper that were thrown away after."

"There's nothing to recount. There's no ballots left," he added.
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« Reply #245 on: February 17, 2012, 06:45:29 pm »
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Maine used to be a part of Massachusetts so this is really a home state win for Romney. Should be disregarded.

Makes it easier... we can just consider all the Louisiana purchase states as one state.
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« Reply #246 on: February 17, 2012, 06:49:42 pm »
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Apperently, the Republican Party of Maine has decided to consider correcting any errors in the count in a timely fashion.

Another public relations disaster for the Romney campaign. Why did they think they could get away with it?

How is this a PR disaster for anybody other than the MEGOP?
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« Reply #247 on: February 17, 2012, 06:56:39 pm »
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Despite everything, I don't see how the results (in %) are going to change much. I suppose the one missing county could theoretically make a difference, but I'm not convinced Paul will even win there - let alone the near 100% he'd likely need.
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« Reply #248 on: February 17, 2012, 06:59:18 pm »
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The Dems managed to run their caucuses perfectly fine in 2008. It's only the GOP that is full of incompetents.

Glad we can rely on you, Lief, to provide a truthful, unbiased analysis on the caucus process!
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« Reply #249 on: February 17, 2012, 08:37:39 pm »

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The party last Saturday announced Romney was the narrow winner over Ron Paul, with a 194-vote winning margin out of 5,585 votes. Rick Santorum came in third and Newt Gingrich in fourth.

The party decided to recount the votes after determining that votes from caucuses in Waterville, Belfast and a number of other towns were left out of the final results, and that the tallies for Paul and Romney were reversed in Portland.

The party said Friday that recount shows that Romney won with a 239-vote margin out of 5,814 votes cast.
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