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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2012, 05:00:29 PM »
« edited: May 16, 2012, 05:02:58 PM by greenforest32 »

Sweet. How well do you think the two initiatives will do in the general election?

If they both make the ballot, I think the measure that focuses on removing the penalties (IP-24) will do better than the one that proposes setting up a government controlled distribution system (Cannabis tax act) similar to our alcohol system which itself is not very popular (pretty sure voters would privatize the alcohol system like Washington recently did if there was an initiative that did this while being revenue neutral).

I'm thinking IP-24 could potentially pass in the low to mid 50s with the Cannabis Tax Act probably ranging around 35-45%.
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« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2012, 05:10:49 PM »

Also, I went ahead and made this, map showing the ass kicking of Holton

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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2012, 05:14:43 PM »

Also, I went ahead and made this, map showing the ass kicking of Holton



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« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2012, 05:19:42 PM »



I am not sure if Gov. Malloy has signed the CT bill yet into law, but assuming he does/has we can put CT up on the big board.

30% - Decriminalized
40% - Medicinal Cannabis allowed
70% - All of the Above
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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2012, 01:33:06 AM »
« Edited: May 19, 2012, 01:35:48 AM by greenforest32 »

Looking likely they'll both make the ballot

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http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2012/05/two_pro-marijuana_initiatives.html

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I am not sure if Gov. Malloy has signed the CT bill yet into law, but assuming he does/has we can put CT up on the big board.

30% - Decriminalized
40% - Medicinal Cannabis allowed
70% - All of the Above

Kind of surprised Maryland and Illinois haven't done anything.
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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2012, 01:58:09 AM »

Greenforest, are you a pothead?
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« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2012, 02:02:27 AM »


To be honest I've never actually tried it.

I do like to see government policy move in the right direction though
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« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2012, 02:12:04 AM »

To be honest I've never actually tried it.
I do like to see government policy move in the right direction though

^^^^^^ Ditto
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« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2012, 10:36:21 PM »

To be honest I've never actually tried it.
I do like to see government policy move in the right direction though

^^^^^^ Ditto

I'm happy to see there are others that are just plainly interested in seeing good policy and that's that.
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« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2012, 10:53:58 PM »

I'm happy to see there are others that are just plainly interested in seeing good policy and that's that.

I started to care more about the issue after joining the local NORML chapter
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« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2012, 11:13:42 AM »

Reyes lost his primary to O'Rourke in TX-16

Pro-legalization Congresscritter +1 Cheesy
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« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2012, 11:15:04 PM »

Pretty active year. Rhode Island likely to become the 15th state to decriminalize possession:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode_island/articles/2012/06/08/ri_pot_decriminalization_bill_on_govs_desk/

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« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2012, 06:04:12 PM »

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/13/498675/seven-more-states-may-legalize-medical-marijuana-in-2012/

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I don't see the Missouri, Pennsylvania, New York, and New Hampshire legislatures passing the bill/getting enough votes to override a veto. The Ohio and Massachusetts ballot measures are probably the best bet. Haven't heard much news about the Illinois legislative bill recently. Not sure how that's going to play out.
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« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2012, 01:03:16 AM »

Pretty active year. Rhode Island likely to become the 15th state to decriminalize possession:

Yup, it's official: http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2012/06/ri-gov-chafee-s-6.html

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New York still looking doubtful: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-rt-usa-newyorkmarijuanal1e8hdkok-20120613,0,5467172.story

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« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2012, 06:01:49 AM »
« Edited: June 14, 2012, 06:04:28 AM by Purch »

I've never done weed. Personally I can't stand it and I can't stand the smell (Along with nicotine). I don't hang around potheads and I get annoyed with one of my best friends whenever she occasionally does it.  However regardless of all that I realize the war on drugs is yet another thing we invest billions of dollars in and get few results, therefor I approve of the decriminalization along with strict rules similar to the rules we put on cigarettes about public places/parks because if someone's smoking in a public area and I have a child present I'd be enraged.
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« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2012, 03:22:43 AM »

So much for that: http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2012/jun/19/ny_gop_kills_marijuana_decrimina

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The Washington legalization initiative was polled again too. Polls so far:

The Elway Research (July 2011)[1] - 54% in favor, 43% opposed, 3% undecided
The Elway Research (January 2012)[1] - 48% in favor, 45% opposed, 7% undecided
Public Policy Polling (February 2012)[2] - 47% yes, 39% no, 15% not sure
Public Policy Polling (June 2012)[3] - 50% yes, 37% no, 12% not sure

[1] http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Washington_Marijuana_Legalization_and_Regulation,_Initiative_502_%282012%29#Polls
[2] http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_WA_222.pdf
[3] http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_WA_619.pdf
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« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2012, 12:51:10 PM »

It seems absolutely ridiculous that a relatively harmless plant that, along with alcohol, suppressed anxiety and helped allow society to happen is so terribly villified by the masses. The masses who, at the same time, are sucking down prozac like there's no tomorrow.

Anyway. Greetings from California.
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« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2012, 04:25:19 PM »

It seems absolutely ridiculous that a relatively harmless plant that, along with alcohol, suppressed anxiety and helped allow society to happen is so terribly villified by the masses. The masses who, at the same time, are sucking down prozac like there's no tomorrow.

Anyway. Greetings from California.

Preach it brother Moderate! Smiley
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« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2012, 11:53:05 AM »

Yesterday was the signature deadline for Oregon. It'll be a week or two before we know what measures qualified but it looks like IP-24 might not make the ballot after all because the SoS rejected a fairly high percentage of the signatures they turned in earlier. The Cannabis Tax Act has a better chance of making the ballot now I think.

http://news.opb.org/article/q-and-a-rundown-ballot-initiative-campaigns-turned-today/

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Also the NH legislature wasn't able to override the Governor's veto of the medical marijuana bill: http://blog.norml.org/2012/06/27/new-hampshire-senate-fails-to-override-governors-medical-marijuana-veto/
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« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2012, 02:52:53 PM »

NH was a let down. Sad
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« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2012, 10:19:54 PM »

The New Jersey house passed a decriminalization measure and it's heading to the senate but Christie has vowed to veto: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/25/new-jersey-assembly-appro_n_1626147.html

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I don't think they'll be able to override the veto unfortunately.

Also, the Michigan legalization campaign ends without enough signatures: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/10/michigan-marijuana-legalization-amendment-campaign_n_1662449.html

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« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2012, 11:47:18 PM »

I don't see the Missouri, Pennsylvania, New York, and New Hampshire legislatures passing the bill/getting enough votes to override a veto. The Ohio and Massachusetts ballot measures are probably the best bet. Haven't heard much news about the Illinois legislative bill recently. Not sure how that's going to play out.

1. The Ohio medical marijuana measure didn't make the ballot: http://www.omca2012.org/home/june-announcement

2. The Massachusetts medical marijuana measure did: http://blog.norml.org/2012/07/10/massachusetts-medical-marijuana-initiative-approved-to-go-before-voters-in-november/

3. One of the Oregon legalization initiatives (Cannabis Tax Act) made the ballot while the other (IP-24) did not though they are suing over the methods used to disqualify many of the signatures[a]: http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/07/marijuana_legalization_measure.html

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[a] http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2012/07/marijuana_petitioner_files_law.html
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« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2012, 02:54:09 PM »

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« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2012, 03:16:02 PM »

Unless the Nebraska legalization measure makes it (which seems unlikely), it looks like it's just going to be Washington, Oregon, and Colorado as the Montana legalization campaign ends without enough signatures: http://helenair.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/marijuana-legalization-anti-abortion-personhood-measures-fail-to-make-ballot/article_1cabe85c-d2f1-11e1-a312-001a4bcf887a.html

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A bit rich after saying he'll veto a simple decriminalization bill but I guess it's a move in the right direction.
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« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2012, 05:18:35 PM »

Once we get enough states on the ballot and majority of them pass, that will send a message to the Federal govt. that it's time to fully legalize.
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