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Question: The futur of the dem party must be Edwards or H Clinton? (to win next election)
Edwards (I'm D)   -12 (22.6%)
Hillary Clinton (I'm D)   -15 (28.3%)
Edwards (I'm R)   -9 (17%)
Hillary Clinton (I'm R)   -6 (11.3%)
Edwards (I'm other)   -7 (13.2%)
Hillary Clinton (I'm other)   -4 (7.5%)
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« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2004, 06:29:03 pm »
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Edwards is not Presidential enough, in my opinion. Hillary would not do any better than Kerry, except she would have a better team, and could probably squeak out a few states, based on a better team than Kerry. She has the Clinton War Machine, which is up on the same level of Karl Rove. I think Howard Dean will be back, there are many Democrats who think he'd have been better than Kerry. If they are looking for a Southern Democrat to run, Edwards is not it. Possibly Mark Warner of Virginia, and maybe Mark Pryor of Arkansas for VP. Of course, that would tick off of the Dean branch, unless they realize they need the win so badly to put aside differences.
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« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2004, 07:13:00 pm »
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Warner / Obama would be a heck of a ticket.
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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2004, 07:32:36 pm »
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Neither if the Dems want to start winning elections.

Obama may be a good choice but I don't think he'll have enough experience to be a major player in 2008.
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« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2004, 08:48:51 pm »
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The only way the democrats can win in the next election is if they pick Joe Lieberman, Evan Bayh, or a candidate from the far west for president.  Its as simple as that.  This election proved that faith, moral values, and a connection with your voters really is important.  Northeasterners just dont get it, and they make fun of it.  So many liberals(not on this board) after this loss have done exactly what cost them this election: "The south is stupid, social conservatives are stupid, theyre bigots and theyre stupid bigots at that.  They are especially stupid for voting for bush again."
The democrats must move to the center and become a center left party because the pendulum has swung to the far right irregardless whether Bush won by 3% because he recieved a social values mandate.
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« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2004, 08:50:51 pm »
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I think the best nominee for the dems in '08 would be Senator Bayh.
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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2004, 08:52:56 pm »
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Warner is popular here. I don't know any of his positions, to be honest.

I know he signed a tax increase into law, but I don't know what his reasons are. I heard he's pro-gun...

You know, MODU?
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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2004, 09:58:13 pm »
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Is Bayh even half-way interested?
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« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2004, 10:06:15 pm »
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I don't see how a moderate could get the Dem nomination. That rules out Bayh, Warner, Lincoln, etc.

Best prediction is Hillary, but it's early. Richardson is one to watch.
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« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2004, 10:07:49 pm »
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I hope that Warner wins and picks Nelson as his VP. We need a governor in our ranks again.
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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2004, 10:09:33 pm »
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What are Warner's stances on the issues?
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« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2004, 02:34:11 am »
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I think the best nominee for the dems in '08 would be Senator Bayh.
Being from Indiana originally, Bayh doesnt play the games his party plays and is probably the second most conservative democratic senator currently in office...zell takes top honors.  Plus knowing how to win landslide elections in republican landslide states is quite an ability...
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« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2012, 01:11:06 pm »
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Most awesome thread ever.
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« Reply #37 on: December 25, 2012, 03:32:29 pm »
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This is a beautiful relic of a thread from a time when there was hope for America.
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« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2012, 07:12:57 pm »
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Well, at least people talked about Obama in 2004... even if his chances were seriously underestimated at the time.
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« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2013, 10:20:36 am »
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Its always amusing to go back to old threads like these and see what people were thinking years ago.  I especially love the talk about Bayh and Lieberman being the Democrats only hopes of winning in 08. 
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« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2013, 01:53:16 pm »
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This thread is really quite laughable now that we know what happened in RL.
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« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2013, 11:43:19 pm »
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LOL at the people saying the Democrats needed Bayh or Lieberman to win. In retrospect, the Democratic party didn't go left enough in 2008.
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« Reply #42 on: February 24, 2015, 01:04:05 pm »
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LOL at the people saying the Democrats needed Bayh or Lieberman to win. In retrospect, the Democratic party didn't go left enough in 2008.
Yes, Democrats were pretty hopeless in 2004.
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« Reply #43 on: February 24, 2015, 05:21:22 pm »
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I think the 2008 Democratic Primary is likely to come down to two candidates, possibly three.  They are: Hillary Clinton (which is a near certainty that she'll run), John Edwards (who may now be associated with a losing ticket), and/or Al Gore (who may just be all primed up to run and...win....)

The best question for all three candidates is, who will be best suited to win against Rudy Giuliani?

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« Reply #44 on: February 24, 2015, 05:24:42 pm »
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I cannot imagine Hillary doing as well as Kerry or Gore did nationally, unless conditions during the second Bush term are horrible.

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Did this guy ever accept his accolades? But, I thought nobody knew who Obama was in 2004!!!!11!!!

I love these old threads.
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« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2015, 08:51:03 pm »
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To be fair, there is probably stuff we've predicted about the 2020 election that will be laughable in the future. These were not uneducated people in this thread.
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« Reply #46 on: May 07, 2015, 02:23:08 pm »
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It does seem laughable though that anybody thought a pro-choice crossdressing mayor of New York would be a shoe in for the GOP nomination.
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