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« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2005, 08:31:40 pm »
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Illegal immigration!

The Republican officials are opposed to stopping illegal immigration, or to be more precise, legalizing illegal immigration.
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« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2005, 08:48:21 pm »
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What Republican that you know doesn't think there should be any kind of enviornmental intervention?

Plenty.

However, many believe there should be very lax restrictions.
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« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2005, 08:52:36 pm »
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Name some politicians.
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« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2005, 09:04:59 pm »
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Name some politicians.

There are plenty of people who insist that there is nothing wrong with the environment. No politicians would probably admit to this belief, but some may have; I really do not know of any offhand.
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« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2005, 09:08:03 pm »
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I see nothing wrong with the environment. Quit legislating morality. Wink
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« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2005, 09:12:07 pm »
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I see nothing wrong with the environment. Quit legislating morality. Wink

You see nothing wrong with the environment yet you just claimed that no Republicans you know have that review. Interesting.

How is the environmental a moral position?
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« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2005, 09:13:58 pm »
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That went way over your head.
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« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2005, 09:49:30 pm »
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I disagree with the premise, effectively put forth by the Democrats, that society should hold "minorities" to a lower standard of behavior than white people, and that those who don't subscribe to this theory are racist.  I think the reverse is true.

I also disagree, as J.J. said, that every problem can be solved by writing a check.

One of the greatest dangers of our age is the use of unelected judges, some of whom are little more than black-robed dictators, to establish a tyranny of the minority (opinion, not ethnic).

While our constitution establishes certain absolute rights that are not subordinate to the will of the majority, contemporary courts have gone too far in delineating those protections, in my opinion, and it is hurting the vast majority of people in society.  The Democrats have encouraged this trend in my opinion, and it is one of the reasons that I can't bring myself to support the Democrats in anything but local elections.
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« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2005, 10:10:33 pm »
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Name some politicians.
Senator Inhofe says global warming doesn't exist.
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« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2005, 10:12:01 pm »
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I disagree with the premise, effectively put forth by the Democrats, that society should hold "minorities" to a lower standard of behavior than white people, and that those who don't subscribe to this theory are racist.  I think the reverse is true.

I also disagree, as J.J. said, that every problem can be solved by writing a check.

One of the greatest dangers of our age is the use of unelected judges, some of whom are little more than black-robed dictators, to establish a tyranny of the minority (opinion, not ethnic).

While our constitution establishes certain absolute rights that are not subordinate to the will of the majority, contemporary courts have gone too far in delineating those protections, in my opinion, and it is hurting the vast majority of people in society.  The Democrats have encouraged this trend in my opinion, and it is one of the reasons that I can't bring myself to support the Democrats in anything but local elections.

If a poor black was caught doing the things Bush has been caught doing, he'd be completely screwed. There is a double-standard, the more powerful you are, the more you can get away with. Who voted for this inside tradiing drunk driving moron, anyways?
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« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2005, 10:13:55 pm »
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Name some politicians.
Senator Inhofe says global warming doesn't exist.

I said someone who doesn't think there needs to be any environmental regulation.

I believe Inhofe thinks global warming is not the result of an enviornmental problem. That's completely reasonable.
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« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2005, 10:14:59 pm »
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Senator Inhofe says global warming doesn't exist.

I said someone who doesn't think there needs to be any environmental regulation.

I believe Inhofe thinks global warming is not the result of an enviornmental problem. That's completely reasonable.

Humans cause greenhouse gases which cause global warming. It's really pretty simple.
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« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2005, 10:16:31 pm »
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It's very simple to say. Now try proving it.
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« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2005, 10:17:45 pm »
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It's very simple to say. Now try proving it.

We release greenhouse gases.
The amount of greenhouse gases is going up.
Greenhouse gases are shown in lab tests to raise temperatures.
Temperatures are going up.
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« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2005, 10:19:03 pm »
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Yeah, this has happened before in the earth's history. Ever heard of the term "ice age?"
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« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2005, 10:23:11 pm »
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Yeah, this has happened before in the earth's history. Ever heard of the term "ice age?"

Are you saying that global warming is ok?
It has a lot of economic downsides.
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« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2005, 10:27:23 pm »
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I disagree with the premise, effectively put forth by the Democrats, that society should hold "minorities" to a lower standard of behavior than white people, and that those who don't subscribe to this theory are racist. I think the reverse is true.

I also disagree, as J.J. said, that every problem can be solved by writing a check.

One of the greatest dangers of our age is the use of unelected judges, some of whom are little more than black-robed dictators, to establish a tyranny of the minority (opinion, not ethnic).

While our constitution establishes certain absolute rights that are not subordinate to the will of the majority, contemporary courts have gone too far in delineating those protections, in my opinion, and it is hurting the vast majority of people in society. The Democrats have encouraged this trend in my opinion, and it is one of the reasons that I can't bring myself to support the Democrats in anything but local elections.

If a poor black was caught doing the things Bush has been caught doing, he'd be completely screwed. There is a double-standard, the more powerful you are, the more you can get away with. Who voted for this inside tradiing drunk driving moron, anyways?

Your issue is with wealth, not race.  Look at O.J.  Or are you one of those who thinks he'll find Nicole's "real" killer on some golf course?

Then of course there's Ted Kennedy, another shining example of using money to buy your way out of trouble.

I don't believe that the poor are punished too severely by our justice system.  If that were true, poor neighborhoods would be oases of safety and tranquility.  I do believe that it is too easy to use money to buy your way out of trouble.  There are so many opportunities with money to manipulate the legal system in your favor.  It's wrong, but it's not a party issue.
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« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2005, 10:36:05 pm »
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I disagree with the premise, effectively put forth by the Democrats, that society should hold "minorities" to a lower standard of behavior than white people, and that those who don't subscribe to this theory are racist.  I think the reverse is true.

I also disagree, as J.J. said, that every problem can be solved by writing a check.

One of the greatest dangers of our age is the use of unelected judges, some of whom are little more than black-robed dictators, to establish a tyranny of the minority (opinion, not ethnic).

While our constitution establishes certain absolute rights that are not subordinate to the will of the majority, contemporary courts have gone too far in delineating those protections, in my opinion, and it is hurting the vast majority of people in society.  The Democrats have encouraged this trend in my opinion, and it is one of the reasons that I can't bring myself to support the Democrats in anything but local elections.

If a poor black was caught doing the things Bush has been caught doing, he'd be completely screwed. There is a double-standard, the more powerful you are, the more you can get away with. Who voted for this inside tradiing drunk driving moron, anyways?

Your issue is with wealth, not race.  Look at O.J.  Or are you one of those who thinks he'll find Nicole's "real" killer on some golf course?

Then of course there's Ted Kennedy, another shining example of using money to buy your way out of trouble.

I don't believe that the poor are punished too severely by our justice system.  If that were true, poor neighborhoods would be oases of safety and tranquility.  I do believe that it is too easy to use money to buy your way out of trouble.  There are so many opportunities with money to manipulate the legal system in your favor.  It's wrong, but it's not a party issue.

Obviously OJ got off because of his expensive lawyers. Sending non-violent drug users to jail doesn't help anyone with anything. We need rehabiliation for all but the worst criminals.
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« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2005, 10:36:52 pm »
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It would make a lot more sense to just legalize drugs and let people live their own lives.
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« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2005, 10:57:18 pm »
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Obviously OJ got off because of his expensive lawyers. Sending non-violent drug users to jail doesn't help anyone with anything. We need rehabiliation for all but the worst criminals.

In order to rehabilitate people, they have to want to be rehabilitated.  And it usually takes punishment to get them to the point where they want to be rehabilitated.  That's the reality.  I wish rehabilitation alone were the answer, but it isn't.  It also takes punishment.

And so-called non-violent drug users are responsible for a great deal of property crime like burglaries, in order to get money to support their habits.  Putting them away reduces other crime.  In my town, burglaries are way down over the last ten years due to a stiffening of prison terms for non-violent criminals at the state level.  Many high-crime areas have enjoyed a similar drop in crime since penalties were stiffened for property and drug crimes.
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« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2005, 11:00:09 pm »
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The environment
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« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2005, 11:01:27 pm »
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Trickle Down Economics makes almost no sense to me.

Enviromental Policy of alot of Republicans disappoints me.
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« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2005, 12:05:39 am »
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In order of importance from least to most:

The obnoxious attitude that the government and everybody (else) owes them a living. This is best exemplified by the innumerable labor-, teacher-, government-sector unions, the AARP, etc.

The sense of absolute entitlement to government office ("We wuz robbed!", "Florida!", "Ohio!", "Gregoire!")

Using the judiciary to implement perverse social changes (Abington School District vs. Schempp, 1963)

The paranoid hatred of the big business in particular and their suspicion towards the free market economic system in general, the greatest engine of general prosperity ever devised by man.

The diffident and irresponsible attitude towards national security, as though the United States is morally unworthy to wage wars or maintain a first-class military





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« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2005, 12:08:53 am »
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In order of importance from least to most:

The obnoxious attitude that the government and everybody (else) owes them a living. This is best exemplified by the innumerable labor-, teacher-, government-sector unions, the AARP, etc.

The sense of absolute entitlement to government office ("We wuz robbed!", "Florida!", "Ohio!", "Gregoire!")

Using the judiciary to implement perverse social changes (Abington School District vs. Schempp, 1963)

The paranoid hatred of the big business in particular and their suspicion towards the free market economic system in general, the greatest engine of general prosperity ever devised by man.

The diffident and irresponsible attitude towards national security, as though the United States is morally unworthy to wage wars or maintain a first-class military







Dude, I could hardly have said it better myself.  Well done.
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« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2005, 12:14:39 am »
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In order of importance from least to most:

The obnoxious attitude that the government and everybody (else) owes them a living. This is best exemplified by the innumerable labor-, teacher-, government-sector unions, the AARP, etc.

The sense of absolute entitlement to government office ("We wuz robbed!", "Florida!", "Ohio!", "Gregoire!")

Using the judiciary to implement perverse social changes (Abington School District vs. Schempp, 1963)

The paranoid hatred of the big business in particular and their suspicion towards the free market economic system in general, the greatest engine of general prosperity ever devised by man.

The diffident and irresponsible attitude towards national security, as though the United States is morally unworthy to wage wars or maintain a first-class military







Dude, I could hardly have said it better myself. Well done.

Thanks! 'Preciate it!

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