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« on: February 11, 2012, 07:42:41 PM »

At this point his campaign has proven to be a total failure and even kind of embarrassing. He clearly wants Mitt Romney to win for some reason and he should stop taking the donations of poor, deluded Paulites so that he can waste it on whatever his campaign has spent all their money on.
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2012, 07:46:13 PM »

Why the hell do you want him to drop out so badly if it helps Romney? Sad
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2012, 07:48:32 PM »
« Edited: February 11, 2012, 07:56:00 PM by Politico »

He has more delegates than the fiscally counterfeit conservative (And just as many delegates as the Moon President if you take away South Carolina), so why would he do such a thing?

That said, we will appreciate his support and delegates after he endorses Romney. But he'll probably be the last of the three still standing when that happens.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2012, 07:53:40 PM »

Yeah, probably. He's underperformed expectations consistently and is clearly fine with being the perpetual underdog. He should give up and endorse Romney, who he has an explicable crush on for no apparent reason.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2012, 07:56:49 PM »

failed at what?  he's aggregating delegates, even ninjas.  let it play out.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2012, 08:01:16 PM »

What's all this BS about Ron Paul loving Mitt?  Yeah right. It's clear people just don't get RP - if he's not in to win - he's in to spread the message of his campaign.  Same things he's been saying for decades.  3% is nothing here, and he's probably got Maine and Minnesota just in delegates.  

Will he win the nomination?  Probably not.  But, he can get push the agenda and spread the message and wait for the national convention.  Plus, I think you'd want to follow through with this - just to see how much support he will have there.  Drop out before then and we'll never know.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2012, 08:02:58 PM »

Paul  has no reason to drop out. He is getting free publicity for his message. And he is getting some delegates which conceivably could represent the balance of power. So he won't -  and shouldn't. His goal is not to stop Romney - unlike 75% if this forum. You will just have to accept that his loadstar is not yours. Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2012, 08:12:15 PM »

Honestly was anyone expecting him to do better than he has? The longer he stays in the more TV time he gets to deliver his message and maybe collect a few delegates that could make him a player if the nomination fight goes all the way to the convention. No reason at all to drop out.
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2012, 08:15:33 PM »

What's all this BS about Ron Paul loving Mitt?  Yeah right. It's clear people just don't get RP - if he's not in to win - he's in to spread the message of his campaign.  Same things he's been saying for decades.  3% is nothing here, and he's probably got Maine and Minnesota just in delegates.  

Will he win the nomination?  Probably not.  But, he can get push the agenda and spread the message and wait for the national convention.  Plus, I think you'd want to follow through with this - just to see how much support he will have there.  Drop out before then and we'll never know.

The fact is that, while they have some big political disagreements, Mitt Romney and Ron Paul have had a good, amicable relationship ever since 2008, just like Ann Romney and Carol Paul. Plus, while Paul will never trust 100% on any of his rivals, he might see Romney as a better alternative to try to implement his monetary dreams than those he call "counterfeit conservatives"...
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2012, 08:29:36 PM »

They're not going to let him pull any serious shenanigans with the delegates at the convention when he can't win a goddamn single state. Nobody is going to take him seriously.

He could have hit Romney in Maine like he hit Gingrich in Iowa but he didn't because he's weirdly infatuated with him and he wants Romney, rather than himself, to be the next President.

I'm sorry but he is just wasting everyone's time with this charade now. At least it seems like Santorum legitimately wants to be the Republican nominee and thinks he might have a shot at it.

Paul's latest failure has really pissed me off and I'm not even a legitimate supporter of his or anything.
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2012, 08:31:28 PM »

They're not going to let him pull any serious shenanigans with the delegates at the convention when he can't win a goddamn single state. Nobody is going to take him seriously.

He could have hit Romney in Maine like he hit Gingrich in Iowa but he didn't because he's weirdly infatuated with him and he wants Romney, rather than himself, to be the next President.

I'm sorry but he is just wasting everyone's time with this charade now. At least it seems like Santorum legitimately wants to be the Republican nominee and thinks he might have a shot at it.

Paul's latest failure has really pissed me off and I'm not even a legitimate supporter of his or anything.

Blah blah blah blah.
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2012, 08:33:04 PM »

Hell no.
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2012, 08:33:09 PM »

He's actually done markedly better than I would have predicted a year ago.  I always thought he had a real but somewhat remote chance of winning even a single state.  It's just that once he broke 20% in both Iowa and NH, people's expectations got out of control, so now his subsequent showings look underwhelming.
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2012, 08:33:40 PM »

They're not going to let him pull any serious shenanigans with the delegates at the convention when he can't win a goddamn single state. Nobody is going to take him seriously.

He could have hit Romney in Maine like he hit Gingrich in Iowa but he didn't because he's weirdly infatuated with him and he wants Romney, rather than himself, to be the next President.

I'm sorry but he is just wasting everyone's time with this charade now. At least it seems like Santorum legitimately wants to be the Republican nominee and thinks he might have a shot at it.

Paul's latest failure has really pissed me off and I'm not even a legitimate supporter of his or anything.

Blah blah blah blah.

Umm, care to address any of my points or are you just here to act like a child? Why the hell won't Ron Paul ever attack Mitt Romney?
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2012, 08:34:46 PM »

They're not going to let him pull any serious shenanigans with the delegates at the convention when he can't win a goddamn single state. Nobody is going to take him seriously.

He could have hit Romney in Maine like he hit Gingrich in Iowa but he didn't because he's weirdly infatuated with him and he wants Romney, rather than himself, to be the next President.

I'm sorry but he is just wasting everyone's time with this charade now. At least it seems like Santorum legitimately wants to be the Republican nominee and thinks he might have a shot at it.

Paul's latest failure has really pissed me off and I'm not even a legitimate supporter of his or anything.

Blah blah blah blah.

Umm, care to address any of my points or are just here to act like a child? Why the hell won't Ron Paul ever attack Mitt Romney?

Ignore him. He clearly hasn't noticed that this place isn't the Ron Paul Forum.
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2012, 08:36:46 PM »
« Edited: February 11, 2012, 08:38:40 PM by Politico »

They're not going to let him pull any serious shenanigans with the delegates at the convention when he can't win a goddamn single state. Nobody is going to take him seriously.

He could have hit Romney in Maine like he hit Gingrich in Iowa but he didn't because he's weirdly infatuated with him and he wants Romney, rather than himself, to be the next President.

I'm sorry but he is just wasting everyone's time with this charade now. At least it seems like Santorum legitimately wants to be the Republican nominee and thinks he might have a shot at it.

Paul's latest failure has really pissed me off and I'm not even a legitimate supporter of his or anything.

Blah blah blah blah.

Umm, care to address any of my points or are you just here to act like a child? Why the hell won't Ron Paul ever attack Mitt Romney?

Because Paul appreciates Romney's support of free markets and smaller/decentralized government. Paul knows that Santorum and Gingrich are all about Big Government. Romney's balanced temperament when discussing his conservative positions on social issues is also something Paul appreciates, I am sure.
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2012, 08:40:09 PM »

They're not going to let him pull any serious shenanigans with the delegates at the convention when he can't win a goddamn single state. Nobody is going to take him seriously.

He could have hit Romney in Maine like he hit Gingrich in Iowa but he didn't because he's weirdly infatuated with him and he wants Romney, rather than himself, to be the next President.

I'm sorry but he is just wasting everyone's time with this charade now. At least it seems like Santorum legitimately wants to be the Republican nominee and thinks he might have a shot at it.

Paul's latest failure has really pissed me off and I'm not even a legitimate supporter of his or anything.

Blah blah blah blah.

Umm, care to address any of my points or are you just here to act like a child? Why the hell won't Ron Paul ever attack Mitt Romney?

Because Paul appreciates Romney's support of free markets and smaller/decentralized government. Paul knows that Santorum and Gingrich are all about Big Government. Romney's balanced temperament when discussing his conservative positions on social issues is also something Paul appreciates, I am sure.

There are hardly any differences between Romney, Gingrich and Santorum on the issues.
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2012, 08:45:24 PM »

They're not going to let him pull any serious shenanigans with the delegates at the convention when he can't win a goddamn single state. Nobody is going to take him seriously.

He could have hit Romney in Maine like he hit Gingrich in Iowa but he didn't because he's weirdly infatuated with him and he wants Romney, rather than himself, to be the next President.

I'm sorry but he is just wasting everyone's time with this charade now. At least it seems like Santorum legitimately wants to be the Republican nominee and thinks he might have a shot at it.

Paul's latest failure has really pissed me off and I'm not even a legitimate supporter of his or anything.

Blah blah blah blah.

Umm, care to address any of my points or are you just here to act like a child? Why the hell won't Ron Paul ever attack Mitt Romney?

Hit Romney with what? An ad like this one? http://youtu.be/jSVi45vfA6o

Besides, Romney's never been named one of the most corrupt politicians like Newt and Frothy have.  Maybe he realizes that he won't get enough delegates from primary states and if he throws his supporters behind Romney, trade that for the VP position.  That would secure their position from a wide-base of followers.  
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2012, 08:46:01 PM »

Absolutely not.
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2012, 10:36:42 PM »

No.

He's running to push his ideology and set his son up for 2016 or 2020. So the last thing he wants to do is drop out in early February.
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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2012, 01:26:04 AM »

Because he lost a state? He never had a chance at a single state last time and stayed in till the end. He's not running to win, as he can't so he has no reason to drop out.
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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2012, 02:19:52 AM »
« Edited: February 12, 2012, 02:22:57 AM by the brute choir »

They're not going to let him pull any serious shenanigans with the delegates at the convention when he can't win a goddamn single state. Nobody is going to take him seriously.

He could have hit Romney in Maine like he hit Gingrich in Iowa but he didn't because he's weirdly infatuated with him and he wants Romney, rather than himself, to be the next President.

I'm sorry but he is just wasting everyone's time with this charade now. At least it seems like Santorum legitimately wants to be the Republican nominee and thinks he might have a shot at it.

Paul's latest failure has really pissed me off and I'm not even a legitimate supporter of his or anything.
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Yes, obviously. I'm not exactly sure what his bizarre strategy of deliberately avoiding multiple states is intended to accomplish. If his goal is to "help" lay the ground work for Rand in 4 years I'm not sure how that does anything other than alienate people. But whatever, I'm done.
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2012, 11:33:11 AM »

I suppose nobody watched Rachel Maddow on Friday...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x28_I9oIVg
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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2012, 11:57:53 AM »


Glad that I caught Paul's Fozzie Bear chuckle (and Rachel's imitation).
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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2012, 01:43:21 PM »

Don't you need to win five states to be allowed to seat your delegates at the national convention? I remember reading something like that.
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