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Question: What years does the Obama Years remind you of?
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The Dubya years
 
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The Clinton years
 
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The Bush years
 
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The Reagan years
 
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The Carter years
 
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Ben Kenobi
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« on: February 15, 2012, 08:10:02 PM »

Reminds me of the Hoover years.

I think the theme song of the administration should be Glenn Miller's "Those were the days".
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2012, 08:29:13 PM »

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Debt is now 100 percent of the US GDP - guess what - if unemployment bounces up again (it's back up above 9 again), the Democrat party is finished for a generation.

I had a great job in the Bush years. Then the BO years rolled around - and they have stank up the joint. Gas is spiking again - the money that I do have in my pocket is worth less, and I still don't have as good of a job as I had in the Bush era.

Like the good man said - am I better now than I was 4 years ago? Hell no.
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 09:05:52 PM »

True - He's more like Woodrow Wilson.
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2012, 11:01:27 PM »

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http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/03/obama_and_wilson.html
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 11:02:53 PM »

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1932-1952 = 20 years.
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2012, 11:44:27 PM »
« Edited: February 15, 2012, 11:48:50 PM by Ben Kenobi »

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Last I checked it was Pelosi who was Speaker back in 2008.

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Put it this way- the workforce as a percentage of the population is just 1.5 percent higher than in 1955. The workforce as a percentage of the population has declined all the way back to 1983.

So not only has Obama successfully doubled the US debt, he's also successfully pared back most of the gains over the last 20 years.

Sure unemployment is down - but those who are not working continues to increase. The greatest president since WW2 at putting women in kitchens having children is Barack Obama. He's also the greatest president at putting black men and women out of work.

Funny that?

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Maybe back in 2008. He's lost 15 points among young people who have born the brunt of his policies which are designed to push marginal workers out of the workforce. These folks aren't going to long forget who was in power when they were struggling.

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Hey Barack had it all. Supermajorities in Congress and the Senate. A blank check to fix the economy. A blank check to do whatever he wanted whenever he wanted.

And what has he done? If he were able to convert 100 percent of what he spent into the economy, we'd be seeing about 7 percent growth. Instead, we've seen 1, maybe a half percent? Obama had a free ride and a free lunch, and he even managed to screw it up. Now we have all the credit card debt coming due, and that will have to be paid off before anything can be done to start the recovery.

It will take about 20-30 years to pay off what took Obama two years to rack up.
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2012, 12:23:40 AM »

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Isn't it congress that controls spending? Congress has had the reins for the last 3 years of the Obama administration, each of which have seen massive deficits dwarfing the worst of the Bush years.

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I am. Larger landslide in '10 than in '94, btw argues just the opposite.

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John McCain had a negative effect on his own party. He, btw was leading in September.

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Then why did they overwhemingly vote the Republicans into the congress? See- my hypothesis explains 2010. Yours does not. People were not happy with the Pelosi congress and what they had done since 2006, so they ousted them.

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People are already waking up to the fiscal catastrophe that awaits the US, which Obama and his policies have greatly exacerbated. His recent budget does nothing to alleviate their concerns.

Massive, massive tax increases. Gutting the military. Massive increases in domestic expeditures, fairy-land economic and tax forecasts. It's an unmitigated disaster.

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Did you see the numbers for Cain? I sure did. Cain was winning in Illinois, and he was getting lots of minorities out to vote for him.

The Republicans might not get a majority of them - but they don't need a majority of them, especially if the much vilified white men all come out to turf Obama.

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I am. I'm seeing 15 point swings away from Obama. I'm seeing Obama struggle to break 50 percent as an incumbant against all manner of republican challengers - as a sitting president.

That - speaks volumes. The last time we had an incumbant this weak was probably Carter in '80 for the historical parallels.

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Given that the US had their very first ever debt downgrade under the Obama administration - it's not the GOP policies that are the problem. People are going to look at their pocketbook, look at the future for themselves and their children. They are going to look at the party that will help them out. If the state itself is going to fall apart than every single one of the Democrat policies is suddenly null and void.

I suppose we could go back to the 75 percent effective tax rate under Kennedy - but wouldn't that speak volumes as to how far we have fallen?

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I work in a 50 percent hispanic district. Do you really want to know how well Obama is thought of here? People are really hurting and they are not happy right now. I'm not talking old people, I'm talking folks closer to my age - folks trying to get out in the world and make a job. Folks that are having to move back in with their parents because they can't afford a place of their own. Who if they have a job are fighting to hang onto the hours that they do get.

That's the reality of the way things are now and have been for awhile now. Obama hasn't brought about prosperity - he's made the lives of individual Americans, particularly young Americans much harder.

Demographics are working against Democrats btw - Bush states in 2000 are growing compared with Gore states. All the Gore states are shrinking, and shrinking badly.

If the Republicans manage to convince folks that they are the best shot at their children finding work and prospering then the game would change would it not?
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2012, 03:52:14 AM »

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The US went from having an advantageous position vs the Euro to a disadvantageous position vs France + Germany. Sure, the US has a much greater capacity to support debt and to pay it down, but it's squandering what could have been a real opportunity.

Imagine if Obama hadn't busted the bank and deficits were contained. The US would be making a killing vs the Euro as the Swiss did and are doing, especially now that they are talking of downgrading France.

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Not nearly fast enough. The deficit is still double the Bush era's worst, and worse than anything you'll see in Europe. Horrible mismanagement.

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True, but what they did in '46 and '47, was to cut the budget in HALF and paid it down. Straight spending cuts. That is what it will take this time to fix things. Do you see Obama proposing a 50 percent cut in government spending? I sure don't.

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Well I was fresh out of university. I ended up paying off all my loans. I worked as an inventory manager for a small store. Something around 2x what I make now + all the OT I could possibly want. It was a great position, but I got let go in the downturn. 

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Only if we can stop digging the hole deeper. 
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