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« on: February 16, 2012, 03:51:23 pm »
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1947, thusly;

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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 06:17:16 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 06:18:32 pm »
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Awesome job! Really, excellent work!
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 07:13:54 pm »
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Thank you Smiley

Using this I've done 1917 and 1950 maps. Hope there's no mistakes.



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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2012, 05:28:20 am »
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1947, thusly;



Am I to assume that the thick lines are parliamentary boundaries (i.e those used for the 1950 and 1951 general elections) and the lighter lines are what were the local councils?
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 06:09:23 am »
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That's a local government map. The thickest lines are the counties. I just wonder about the borough/cb vs UD/RD dichotomy.
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That's a local government map. The thickest lines are the counties. I just wonder about the borough/cb vs UD/RD dichotomy.

The black lines are Counties. The dark grey lines are County Boroughs and Boroughs, the light grey are Rural Districts and Urban Districts.

EDIT: Thiking about it, perhaps the County Boroughs should be in black lines too

It compliments this map:

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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2012, 09:17:38 am »
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Using this I've done 1917 and 1950 maps. Hope there's no mistakes.

Merthyr Parliamentary Borough was divided into two constituencies: Merthyr Tydfil and Aberdare. Merthyr covered Merthyr CB, Aberdare everything else. No, I don't understand either.

Cardiff was divided into three constituencies; I made (less than brilliant) maps of them a while back.

Swansea CB was divided into two constituencies. Can't remember the boundary offhand.
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Using this I've done 1917 and 1950 maps. Hope there's no mistakes.

Merthyr Parliamentary Borough was divided into two constituencies: Merthyr Tydfil and Aberdare. Merthyr covered Merthyr CB, Aberdare everything else. No, I don't understand either.

Cardiff was divided into three constituencies; I made (less than brilliant) maps of them a while back.

Swansea CB was divided into two constituencies. Can't remember the boundary offhand.

D'oh. Thank you. Ah well at least you can all play about with it Smiley
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Using this I've done 1917 and 1950 maps. Hope there's no mistakes.

Merthyr Parliamentary Borough was divided into two constituencies: Merthyr Tydfil and Aberdare. Merthyr covered Merthyr CB, Aberdare everything else.
Sounds like that is a reference to the previous set of boundaries, which would mean those included a Merthyr Parliamentary Borough (precursor of what you'd now call a Borough Constituency) that covered additional areas.
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Sounds like that is a reference to the previous set of boundaries, which would mean those included a Merthyr Parliamentary Borough (precursor of what you'd now call a Borough Constituency) that covered additional areas.

That's exactly right. The double-member Merthyr constituency that Hardie sat for from 1900 looked like this:

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2012, 01:41:44 pm »
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What are Caerphilly Higher and Miskin Higher references to?
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2012, 01:49:54 pm »
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Miskin Hundred and Caerphilly Hundred were both split into Higher and Lower parts.
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2012, 02:04:40 pm »
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"Hundred"? I didn't know such things ever existed in Wales. Cantrefi, yes. Commotes as well. Though I've never known anything about what the Cantrefi of Glamorgan looked like. (Some moderate wiki walking later: They did, apparently. And are in some hazy ways related, but not identical, to earlier commotes.) In Gwynedd, of course, the RD map looked suspiciously like (though not identical to) an ancient Cantref map right down to 1974.
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2012, 08:44:40 pm »
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One very minor mistake spotted: the limestone quarrying village of Llysfaen (on the coast between Colwyn Bay and Llanddulas) was a detached part of the Caernarfonshire constituency. Which meant that it had its first Labour MP 75 years before anywhere it borders.
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