Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 18, 2013, 04:19:23 pm
HomePredMockPollEVCalcAFEWIKIHelpLogin Register
News: Please delete your old personal messages.

+  Atlas Forum
|-+  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion
| |-+  International Elections (Moderator: Sibboleth)
| | |-+  Base map of Wales - 1947
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Author Topic: Base map of Wales - 1947  (Read 623 times)
afleitch
Moderators
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 20207


Political Matrix
E: 2.45, S: -8.17

View Profile
« on: February 16, 2012, 03:51:23 pm »
Ignore

1947, thusly;

« Last Edit: February 16, 2012, 05:03:34 pm by afleitch »Logged
Sibboleth
Realpolitik
Moderator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 53147
Saint Helena


View Profile WWW
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 06:17:16 pm »

Diolch Smiley
Logged

Smid
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 5419
Australia


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 06:18:32 pm »
Ignore

Awesome job! Really, excellent work!
Logged
afleitch
Moderators
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 20207


Political Matrix
E: 2.45, S: -8.17

View Profile
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 07:13:54 pm »
Ignore

Thank you Smiley

Using this I've done 1917 and 1950 maps. Hope there's no mistakes.



Logged
Harry Hayfield
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 1762
United Kingdom


Political Matrix
E: -1.55, S: 0.00

View Profile
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2012, 05:28:20 am »
Ignore

1947, thusly;



Am I to assume that the thick lines are parliamentary boundaries (i.e those used for the 1950 and 1951 general elections) and the lighter lines are what were the local councils?
Logged

Vasall des Midas
Lewis Trondheim
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 56719
French Polynesia


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 06:09:23 am »
Ignore

That's a local government map. The thickest lines are the counties. I just wonder about the borough/cb vs UD/RD dichotomy.
Logged

Liberate yourself from Free Will


Support Tahiti!
afleitch
Moderators
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 20207


Political Matrix
E: 2.45, S: -8.17

View Profile
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 07:35:04 am »
Ignore

That's a local government map. The thickest lines are the counties. I just wonder about the borough/cb vs UD/RD dichotomy.

The black lines are Counties. The dark grey lines are County Boroughs and Boroughs, the light grey are Rural Districts and Urban Districts.

EDIT: Thiking about it, perhaps the County Boroughs should be in black lines too

It compliments this map:

« Last Edit: February 17, 2012, 07:42:36 am by afleitch »Logged
Sibboleth
Realpolitik
Moderator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 53147
Saint Helena


View Profile WWW
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2012, 09:17:38 am »

Using this I've done 1917 and 1950 maps. Hope there's no mistakes.

Merthyr Parliamentary Borough was divided into two constituencies: Merthyr Tydfil and Aberdare. Merthyr covered Merthyr CB, Aberdare everything else. No, I don't understand either.

Cardiff was divided into three constituencies; I made (less than brilliant) maps of them a while back.

Swansea CB was divided into two constituencies. Can't remember the boundary offhand.
Logged

afleitch
Moderators
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 20207


Political Matrix
E: 2.45, S: -8.17

View Profile
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2012, 10:05:36 am »
Ignore

Using this I've done 1917 and 1950 maps. Hope there's no mistakes.

Merthyr Parliamentary Borough was divided into two constituencies: Merthyr Tydfil and Aberdare. Merthyr covered Merthyr CB, Aberdare everything else. No, I don't understand either.

Cardiff was divided into three constituencies; I made (less than brilliant) maps of them a while back.

Swansea CB was divided into two constituencies. Can't remember the boundary offhand.

D'oh. Thank you. Ah well at least you can all play about with it Smiley
Logged
Vasall des Midas
Lewis Trondheim
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 56719
French Polynesia


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2012, 12:47:52 pm »
Ignore

Using this I've done 1917 and 1950 maps. Hope there's no mistakes.

Merthyr Parliamentary Borough was divided into two constituencies: Merthyr Tydfil and Aberdare. Merthyr covered Merthyr CB, Aberdare everything else.
Sounds like that is a reference to the previous set of boundaries, which would mean those included a Merthyr Parliamentary Borough (precursor of what you'd now call a Borough Constituency) that covered additional areas.
Logged

Liberate yourself from Free Will


Support Tahiti!
Sibboleth
Realpolitik
Moderator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 53147
Saint Helena


View Profile WWW
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2012, 01:04:26 pm »

Sounds like that is a reference to the previous set of boundaries, which would mean those included a Merthyr Parliamentary Borough (precursor of what you'd now call a Borough Constituency) that covered additional areas.

That's exactly right. The double-member Merthyr constituency that Hardie sat for from 1900 looked like this:

Logged

Vasall des Midas
Lewis Trondheim
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 56719
French Polynesia


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2012, 01:41:44 pm »
Ignore

What are Caerphilly Higher and Miskin Higher references to?
Logged

Liberate yourself from Free Will


Support Tahiti!
Sibboleth
Realpolitik
Moderator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 53147
Saint Helena


View Profile WWW
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2012, 01:49:54 pm »

Miskin Hundred and Caerphilly Hundred were both split into Higher and Lower parts.
Logged

Vasall des Midas
Lewis Trondheim
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 56719
French Polynesia


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2012, 02:04:40 pm »
Ignore

"Hundred"? I didn't know such things ever existed in Wales. Cantrefi, yes. Commotes as well. Though I've never known anything about what the Cantrefi of Glamorgan looked like. (Some moderate wiki walking later: They did, apparently. And are in some hazy ways related, but not identical, to earlier commotes.) In Gwynedd, of course, the RD map looked suspiciously like (though not identical to) an ancient Cantref map right down to 1974.
Logged

Liberate yourself from Free Will


Support Tahiti!
Sibboleth
Realpolitik
Moderator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 53147
Saint Helena


View Profile WWW
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2012, 08:44:40 pm »

One very minor mistake spotted: the limestone quarrying village of Llysfaen (on the coast between Colwyn Bay and Llanddulas) was a detached part of the Caernarfonshire constituency. Which meant that it had its first Labour MP 75 years before anywhere it borders.
Logged

Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Logout

Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines
Forums Directory