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Considering the trail of tears and his alleged war crimes should he be on the $20 bill?
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Re: Should Andrew Jackson be celebrated on U.S. currency?
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March 02, 2012, 09:41:03 pm »
I don't support having former Presidents on our currency. If I'm not mistaken, we are the only country that does such a thing. If it were up to me, we'd have famous American landmarks on bills. I think the idea from Reginald's link with the Hollywood sign. Something like that.
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I personally like referring to dollar bills as "Andy Jacksons" & "Al Hamiltons" & so on & so forth.
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No, and it would be an appropriate touch of irony to replace his image with that of Sacagawea.
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Re: Should Andrew Jackson be celebrated on U.S. currency?
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Yes it's history and the social norms were different in his era. As humans it is important to improve on the progression of society but also important to recognize that our founders and forefathers lived in different times. Culture is a huge part of how one's political and ideological development evolves. He was extremely aggressive but served our country well.
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Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 04, 2012, 12:15:30 am
Yes it's history and the social norms were different in his era. As humans it is important to improve on the progression of society but also important to recognize that our founders and forefathers lived in different times. Culture is a huge part of how one's political and ideological development evolves. He was extremely aggressive but served our country well.
People in his time and culture realized what he did to the Native Americans was wrong, and he basically gave them the finger.
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Re: Should Andrew Jackson be celebrated on U.S. currency?
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March 04, 2012, 12:43:37 pm »
Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on March 04, 2012, 12:05:00 pm
Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 04, 2012, 12:15:30 am
Yes it's history and the social norms were different in his era. As humans it is important to improve on the progression of society but also important to recognize that our founders and forefathers lived in different times. Culture is a huge part of how one's political and ideological development evolves. He was extremely aggressive but served our country well.
People in his time and culture realized what he did to the Native Americans was wrong, and he basically gave them the finger.
Wah wah wah.
People of FDR's time and culture realized what he did to the Japanese Americans was wrong, and he basically gave them the finger.
Yet he's on the dime.
I seriously suggest that you find something else besides some randomass guys on currency to stress over.
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Quote from: MechaRepublican on March 04, 2012, 12:43:37 pm
Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on March 04, 2012, 12:05:00 pm
Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 04, 2012, 12:15:30 am
Yes it's history and the social norms were different in his era. As humans it is important to improve on the progression of society but also important to recognize that our founders and forefathers lived in different times. Culture is a huge part of how one's political and ideological development evolves. He was extremely aggressive but served our country well.
People in his time and culture realized what he did to the Native Americans was wrong, and he basically gave them the finger.
Wah wah wah.
People of FDR's time and culture realized what he did to the Japanese Americans was wrong, and he basically gave them the finger.
Yet he's on the dime.
I seriously suggest that you find something else besides some randomass guys on currency to stress over.
Was the Trail of Tears about national security?
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Re: Should Andrew Jackson be celebrated on U.S. currency?
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March 04, 2012, 02:37:34 pm »
Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on March 04, 2012, 12:05:00 pm
Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 04, 2012, 12:15:30 am
Yes it's history and the social norms were different in his era. As humans it is important to improve on the progression of society but also important to recognize that our founders and forefathers lived in different times. Culture is a huge part of how one's political and ideological development evolves. He was extremely aggressive but served our country well.
People in his time and culture realized what he did to the Native Americans was wrong, and he basically gave them the finger.
That's true but he did alot of other things that were beneficial to our nation. It's easy to dwell on the negative of history but history is just that; our past.
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Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 04, 2012, 02:37:34 pm
Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on March 04, 2012, 12:05:00 pm
Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 04, 2012, 12:15:30 am
Yes it's history and the social norms were different in his era. As humans it is important to improve on the progression of society but also important to recognize that our founders and forefathers lived in different times. Culture is a huge part of how one's political and ideological development evolves. He was extremely aggressive but served our country well.
People in his time and culture realized what he did to the Native Americans was wrong, and he basically gave them the finger.
That's true but he did alot of other things that were beneficial to our nation. It's easy to dwell on the negative of history but history is just that; our past.
Yes, causing the Panic of 1837 was very beneficial to our nation.
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if you try to edit genocidal maniacs out of US history you won't have much left.
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March 04, 2012, 06:40:27 pm »
Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 04, 2012, 12:15:30 am
Yes it's history and the social norms were different in his era. As humans it is important to improve on the progression of society but also important to recognize that our founders and forefathers lived in different times. Culture is a huge part of how one's political and ideological development evolves. He was extremely aggressive but served our country well.
Attila the Hun was a successfull man of his times too. Let's put him on the bill somewhere!
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Quote from: Hank4Senate on March 04, 2012, 06:40:27 pm
Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 04, 2012, 12:15:30 am
Yes it's history and the social norms were different in his era. As humans it is important to improve on the progression of society but also important to recognize that our founders and forefathers lived in different times. Culture is a huge part of how one's political and ideological development evolves. He was extremely aggressive but served our country well.
Attila the Hun was a successful man of his times too. Let's put him on the bill somewhere!
Since he was a Hun, the 20,000 forint seems appropriate.
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George Washington owned slaves should he be on the $1 bill then?
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Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 05, 2012, 04:10:50 pm
George Washington owned slaves should he be on the $1 bill then?
what is your opinion on this matter?
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Re: Should Andrew Jackson be celebrated on U.S. currency?
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March 05, 2012, 06:57:46 pm »
Quote from: © Boss Tweed on March 05, 2012, 04:40:31 pm
Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 05, 2012, 04:10:50 pm
George Washington owned slaves should he be on the $1 bill then?
what is your opinion on this matter?
Sounds like a "who the f*** cares?" kind of post.
This is like when atheists bitch about "In God We Trust" being on the dollar bill. I frankly could care less what the money was in trust to, just as long as it gets me my damn Kellans.
But hey that's just me.
People who worry about what's on dollar bills need to see a psychiatrist.
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Quote from: MechaRepublican on March 05, 2012, 06:57:46 pm
Quote from: © Boss Tweed on March 05, 2012, 04:40:31 pm
Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 05, 2012, 04:10:50 pm
George Washington owned slaves should he be on the $1 bill then?
what is your opinion on this matter?
Sounds like a "who the f*** cares?" kind of post.
This is like when atheists bitch about "In God We Trust" being on the dollar bill. I frankly could care less what the money was in trust to, just as long as it gets me my damn Kellans.
But hey that's just me.
People who worry about what's on dollar bills need to see a psychiatrist.
QTF
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March 05, 2012, 07:39:26 pm »
Let's review:
George Washington ($1 guy): Owned slaves, Killed Indians.
Thomas Jefferson ($2 guy): Invented Manifest Destiny, Had slaves, Killed Indians.
Abraham Lincoln ($5 guy): Drafted doods, Martial Law, Killed Indians.
Alexander Hamilton ($10 guy): Was an elitist dick, was a bad shot, probably did kill (a few) Indians.
Andrew Jackson ($20 guy): Was a f***ing psycho, Killed Indians.
Ulysses Grant ($50 guy): Was cool with scorched earth war policies, corruption amok, Killed Indians.
Benjamin Franklin ($100 guy): Wore bitchin shades, was good with the ladies, invented everything and it's grandmother, not likely to have killed Indians.
If anything Benjamin Franklin needs to be taken off..............
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Re: Should Andrew Jackson be celebrated on U.S. currency?
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Quote from: MechaRepublican on March 05, 2012, 06:57:46 pm
Quote from: © Boss Tweed on March 05, 2012, 04:40:31 pm
Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 05, 2012, 04:10:50 pm
George Washington owned slaves should he be on the $1 bill then?
what is your opinion on this matter?
Sounds like a "who the f*** cares?" kind of post.
This is like when atheists bitch about "In God We Trust" being on the dollar bill. I frankly could care less what the money was in trust to, just as long as it gets me my damn Kellans.
But hey that's just me.
People who worry about what's on dollar bills need to see a psychiatrist.
That's just because psychiatrists are Masons and you Masons want people brainwashed with drugs to obey the New World Order that the Masonic symbols on the back of the dollar bill celebrate.
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Quote from: MechaRepublican on March 05, 2012, 07:39:26 pm
Alexander Hamilton ($10 guy): Was an elitist dick, was a bad shot, probably did kill (a few) Indians.
Also, he was a homosexual.
Let's not forget the coins:
1c Lincoln: suspension of habeus corpus, killed injuns, etc.
5c Jefferson: slaveowner, flute player, elitist
10c Roosevelt: appeaser of Hitler, Keynesian, helped co-opt a brutal revolt in Spain
25c Washington: slaveowner, injun killer, wearer of wooden teeth
50c Kennedy: elitist, sexually aggressive to the point of a national distraction, warmonger
$1 Eisenhower: his favorite colors were pink and green
We should replace them all with celebrities. I'd go with:
1c: Elvis Presley, the King of Rock and Roll
5c: Michael Jackson, the King of Pop
10c: Howard Stern, the King of all media
25c: Barry Bonds, the Home Run King
50c: Kevin James, the King of Queens
$1: Hank, King of the Hill
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Re: Should Andrew Jackson be celebrated on U.S. currency?
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March 08, 2012, 04:22:55 pm »
Quote from: © the kid your parents warned you about on March 05, 2012, 04:40:31 pm
Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 05, 2012, 04:10:50 pm
George Washington owned slaves should he be on the $1 bill then?
what is your opinion on this matter?
That times were different back then and society continues to change. While change is not always good, there's nothing wrong with saying "that's how things were then" as long as we work to better things.
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Quote from: angus on March 08, 2012, 04:15:07 pm
We should replace them all with celebrities. I'd go with:
1c: Elvis Presley, the King of Rock and Roll
5c: Michael Jackson, the King of Pop
10c: Howard Stern, the King of all media
25c: Barry Bonds, the Home Run King
50c: Kevin James, the King of Queens
$1: Hank, King of the Hill
Elvis - died from drug abuse
Michael - suspected pedophile
Howard - POS misogynist
Barry - steroid user
Kevin - Archie Bunker as one of the original Kings of Queens would be a better choice
Hank - the best of your choices
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Quote from: Cheesy Grits on March 11, 2012, 10:20:04 am
Quote from: angus on March 08, 2012, 04:15:07 pm
We should replace them all with celebrities. I'd go with:
1c: Elvis Presley, the King of Rock and Roll
5c: Michael Jackson, the King of Pop
10c: Howard Stern, the King of all media
25c: Barry Bonds, the Home Run King
50c: Kevin James, the King of Queens
$1: Hank, King of the Hill
Elvis - died from drug abuse
Michael - suspected pedophile
Howard - POS misogynist
Barry - steroid user
Kevin - Archie Bunker as one of the original Kings of Queens would be a better choice
Hank - the best of your choices
Howard Stern is not a misogynist.
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Re: Should Andrew Jackson be celebrated on U.S. currency?
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I think he would be insulted by the idea of placing him of all people on a federal reserve note.
Also I do not like the idea of placing people on currency.
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I would not be displeased with Barry Bonds on money.
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