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« on: February 21, 2012, 12:23:51 pm »
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/22/us/justices-to-hear-case-on-affirmative-action-in-higher-education.html?_r=1

The court’s decision in the new case holds the potential to undo an accommodation reached in the Supreme Court’s 5-to-4 decision in 2003 in Grutter v. Bollinger: that public colleges and universities could not use a point system to boost minority enrollment but could take race into account in vaguer way to ensure academic diversity.


Well, soon to be overruled 5-3.

Lower court opinion.

http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/09/09-50822-CV0.wpd.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2012, 01:20:05 pm »
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I hope affirmative action dies.
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2012, 06:48:21 pm »
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The SCrt already feels differently when it comes to quotos as oppose to separate but equal, they aren't the same.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2012, 04:18:52 pm »
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Good. I hope they overturn Grutter.
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2012, 07:41:05 pm »
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When do arguments begin, and how soon can we expect a ruling on this case?   
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2012, 06:02:57 pm »
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I hope affirmative action dies.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2012, 07:50:39 pm »
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Don't wanna word it this harshly, but this. AA is noble in nature, but is essentially reverse discrimination.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2012, 04:35:52 am »
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Of course they'll only ban affirmative action based on race. Affirmative action for athletes and the children of alumni/celebrities/politicians will remain in place.
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2012, 09:03:25 am »
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2012, 12:26:17 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2012, 06:40:10 am »
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2012, 10:25:40 am »
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Of course they'll only ban affirmative action based on race. Affirmative action for athletes and the children of alumni/celebrities/politicians will remain in place.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2012, 02:12:21 pm »
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Based on race, at least. Economic and educational affirmative action should remain in place, however.
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2012, 04:42:09 pm »
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From a strictly meritocratic perspective, race-based affirmative action is "unfair," but it's hard to get for me to get upset about that.

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At least one third of the students at elite universities, and at least half at liberal arts colleges, are flagged for preferential treatment in the admissions process. While minorities make up 10 to 15 percent of a typical student body, affluent whites dominate other preferred groups: recruited athletes (10 to 25 percent of students); alumni children, also known as “legacies” (10 to 25 percent); development cases (2 to 5 percent); children of celebrities and politicians (1 to 2 percent); and children of faculty members (1 to 3 percent).

- Daniel Golden, The Price of Admission
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2012, 09:04:17 pm »
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From a strictly meritocratic perspective, race-based affirmative action is "unfair," but it's hard to get for me to get upset about that.

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At least one third of the students at elite universities, and at least half at liberal arts colleges, are flagged for preferential treatment in the admissions process. While minorities make up 10 to 15 percent of a typical student body, affluent whites dominate other preferred groups: recruited athletes (10 to 25 percent of students); alumni children, also known as “legacies” (10 to 25 percent); development cases (2 to 5 percent); children of celebrities and politicians (1 to 2 percent); and children of faculty members (1 to 3 percent).

- Daniel Golden, The Price of Admission


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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2012, 03:36:20 pm »
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Why is there not more discussion on this?  Or does everyone just assume it is a foregone conclusion that the Supreme Court will do away with -once and for all- racial and ethnic preferences in college admissions? 
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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2012, 06:42:20 pm »
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I can understand arguments in principle both for and against affirmative action in college admissions, but I really don't get how opposition to it can really be such an important thing for people. I mean, it's not like America's elite universities aren't still lily white, and it's not like any of you are getting your applications rejected in favor of a black guy. Where's this passion against it coming from?
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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2012, 12:27:29 pm »
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The legacy issue is an important one, IMO.  Are the legacies now ethnically balanced?
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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2012, 03:05:22 pm »
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I can understand arguments in principle both for and against affirmative action in college admissions, but I really don't get how opposition to it can really be such an important thing for people. I mean, it's not like America's elite universities aren't still lily white, and it's not like any of you are getting your applications rejected in favor of a black guy. Where's this passion against it coming from?

People have sued because blacks/hispanics have gotten in with lower grades and SAT scores while they were rejected. Although whites don't get hit that bad by it; it's Asians who really get screwed by it.
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2012, 01:07:28 am »
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I hope affirmative action dies.
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2012, 03:10:43 am »
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Affirmative action still has a place in America.  I have black friends who tell me that when they go to an interview and the interviewer realizes they're black, they are sometimes in a state of shock and really uncomfortable (and when that happens the interview doesn't last more than 10 minutes and they never hear back from the company).  On the other hand, the way the system is abused by people who have never faced discrimination in their life is ridiculous and causes a backlash towards people who are at no fault for any of that.
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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2012, 08:57:26 pm »
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...but not until after this Latino applies to college. Tongue

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