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Question: if there was an election in two rounds, you would vote for whom?
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« on: February 21, 2012, 10:56:17 pm »
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Exemple of the system :
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2012, 11:00:11 pm »
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Personnaly, I would had vote for constitution on first and democratic on final round (except if there is a paul-obama final)
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2012, 11:48:21 pm »
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Personnaly, I would had vote for constitution on first and democratic on final round (except if there is a paul-obama final)

Your politics seem fairly atypical for France...
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 03:02:33 am »
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 03:36:18 am »
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Constitution nominee, Republican nominee
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 04:09:25 am »
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My first vote would be for the Democrat. On the second round, my order of preference would probably be: Democrat > Green > Other (non-crazy socialist perhaps? World-Unity?) > Republican > Libertarian >Constitution

I'd love to see the dynamics that pop out of a setup like this. You'd probably still have Dems and Republicans as the primary parties, but large sections of their current coalitions would line up behind alternatives for the first round, and come home for the final.

But given the current status of the vote here... If somehow the forum is in any way representative of the larger electorate (haha, not really) it might be possible the Republicans get transplanted.

At the very least it would allow the 'My Rich guys can out spend your Rick guys' thing to play out in a very different way. You could have Ricky on the Constitution ticket, Paul on the Libertarian, Mittens on the Republican ticket, and Gingrich out in the cold for the first round of the general election. Long run I think such a runoff system would heavily favor the democrats as the only semi-organized splitters are the green party. Moderates would keep with the Democrats while the liberals go with the greens. If the Democrat running is crappy the greens get into the second round, but otherwise there is always a Democrat in round two, and they can claim to be the voice of moderation in American politics, independent of what the right coalitions claim.

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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 05:52:35 am »
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Constitution first round - republican second.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 10:11:09 am »

Depends on whether the fact that people start to cast first round votes for third parties cause those third parties to become more than jokes.  If they did, I'd consider voting for the libertarian or green parties as something more than a protest against the major parties.
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 10:13:07 am »
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Green or Libertarian first round (depending on what strain of Greenies/Libertarians those candidates are) and then Democrat on the second round.
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2012, 10:41:40 am »
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It would depend on who the individual candidates where. I find myself to be both sympathetic to but quite often in strong disagreement with members of the Democratic Party, GPUSA, and SPUSA. My first round vote would go to whomever I have the fewest substantive disagreements, which would mean either a moderate socialist or green, or a Democratic candidate way out in left field.
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2012, 10:46:48 am »
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Green or Libertarian first round (depending on what strain of Greenies/Libertarians those candidates are) and then Democrat on the second round.

Yes. Probably LIB because American Greens are often...particularly annoying. Primarily, it'd just be good to cast a "non-wasted" vote against the two major parties.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2012, 10:55:17 am »
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You could have Ricky on the Constitution ticket,

Santorum is probably the most removed from the Constitution Party platform of any of the current GOP candidates.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2012, 10:58:12 am »
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Depends upon the candidates.  I voted for Republican in your poll, assuming Ron Paul would be among the first round candidates.  If the second round featured Romney or Santorum against Obama, I'd vote for the Republican in the second round as well.  If it were Gingrich against Obama, it'd be a tough call.
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2012, 11:16:16 am »
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A couple guesses at previous elections:

1992:

First round:

Clinton (Democratic): 31%
Perot (Perot Party): 23%
Bush (Republican): 20%
Buchanan (Taxpayer): 11%
Jerry Brown: (No2NAFTA): 5%
Other: 10%

Second round, Clinton vs. Perot:

Perot: 54%
Clinton: 46%

Second round, Bush vs. Perot:

Perot: 58%
Bush: 42%

Second round, Clinton vs. Bush:

Clinton: 52%
Bush: 48%

1968

Nixon (Republican): 30%
Wallace (American Independent): 24%
Humphrey (Democratic): 23%
McCarthy (Peace): 14%
Other: 9%

Second round, Nixon vs. Wallace (2002 scenario):

Nixon: 71%
Wallace: 29%

Second round, Nixon vs. Humphrey:

Nixon: 55%
Humphrey: 45%

Second round, Humphrey vs. Wallace:

Humphrey: 63%
Wallace: 37%
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2012, 11:19:50 am »
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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2012, 12:18:08 pm »
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I don't think that Brown would ran aganist Perot.
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2012, 01:27:37 pm »
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I don't think that Brown would ran aganist Perot.


Nor would Buchanan. All three of them were anti-NAFTA
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2012, 01:31:11 pm »
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I don't think that Brown would ran aganist Perot.


Nor would Buchanan. All three of them were anti-NAFTA

Buchanan endorsed Bush in the general election and Brown endorsed nobody.  It's not like they were Perot supporters.
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2012, 08:04:36 am »
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this poll is very interesting, cause we can see than a two-round system open doors for actual "minor" parties


we can see that they are "minor" only because the FPTP actual rule.
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2012, 09:56:46 am »
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this poll is very interesting, cause we can see than a two-round system open doors for actual "minor" parties


we can see that they are "minor" only because the FPTP actual rule.
...Except that this forum doesn't really reflect the American electorate all that well. Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2012, 10:08:28 am »
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this poll is very interesting, cause we can see than a two-round system open doors for actual "minor" parties


we can see that they are "minor" only because the FPTP actual rule.

In practice is this not really the case, though. Most of the former Confederacy has a second round for elections if nobody gets a majority in the first round, and Louisiana, California, and Washington have some version of the jungle primary which is basically the same thing. In none of these states do you see minor parties really taking off at all.
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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2012, 10:50:56 am »
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I don't think that Brown would ran aganist Perot.


Nor would Buchanan. All three of them were anti-NAFTA
Buchanan would run 'cause he is a social conservative. He threatened to run as indy in '96 if Dole had picked pro-choice RM. Why he would support pro-choice, pro-gun control and pro-gay rights Perot?
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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2012, 11:25:35 am »
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Green Party or Socialist Party USA
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2012, 11:49:32 am »
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1980:

Reagan (Republican): 39%
Carter (Democratic): 22%
Kennedy (National Democratic): 17%
Anderson (Anderson Independent): 11%
Ed Clark (Libertarian): 5%
Other: 6%

Round 2, Reagan vs. Carter:

Reagan: 54%
Carter: 46%

Round 2, Reagan vs. Kennedy:

Reagan: 58%
Kennedy: 42%

1936 (with Huey Long):

Roosevelt (Democratic): 31%
Landon (Republican): 24%
Long (Share Our Wealth): 22%
Al Smith (Liberty): 8%
Borah (American): 6%
Other: 9%

Second round, Roosevelt vs. Landon:

Roosevelt: 62%
Landon: 38%

Second round, Roosevelt vs. Long:

Roosevelt: 65%
Long: 35%

Second round, Landon vs. Long:

Landon: 51%
Long: 49%
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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2012, 12:14:51 pm »
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Libertarian in round 1, Round 2 I would vote for Libertarian> Republican >Democratic > Green>Constitution
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