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« on: February 28, 2012, 11:16:11 am »
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(Reuters) - Ecuador's leftist President Rafael Correa said Washington must let him open a military base in Miami if the United States wants to keep using an air base on Ecuador's Pacific coast.

"We'll renew the base on one condition: that they let us put a base in Miami -- an Ecuadorean base," Correa said in an interview during a trip to Italy.

"If there's no problem having foreign soldiers on a country's soil, surely they'll let us have an Ecuadorean base in the United States."

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2007/10/22/ecuador-base-idUKADD25267520071022

Does that sound reasonable to you all?
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Why do so many people here cheer on war crimes?
Israel and the United States "killing dozens of civilians with explosives", as you phrase it, has, throughout history, almost always been a good thing.
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2012, 11:45:40 am »

Their dollars will spend as well as ours.  But why Miami?  Hurlburt Field in the Florida Panhandle would make more sense from a purely military perspective.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2012, 06:21:11 pm »
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When is the CIA going to assassinate him?
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2012, 10:25:03 pm »
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We have enough military bases in the area that they couldn't do anything, and honestly I don't think they'd have enough troops to staff it significantly. (they have only 37.5k) Considering what they'd have to invest to make any kind of significant base, I'm pretty sure that this is just a political ploy because they think we'll say no - they probably want something else. We should say yes just to see what they do.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2012, 10:29:24 pm »
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When is the CIA going to assassinate him?

They'll probably just send a small military attachment to arrest him, discovering that he's partial to purple thongs and has a bust of Mussolini in his bathroom.
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« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2012, 12:25:22 am »
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The Germans have been operating a base (inside of a US base) in New Mexico for like 15 years.  link

Like Dibble said, I say we call their bluff and say yes, come on up.
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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2012, 12:47:01 am »

We have enough military bases in the area that they couldn't do anything, and honestly I don't think they'd have enough troops to staff it significantly. (they have only 37.5k) Considering what they'd have to invest to make any kind of significant base, I'm pretty sure that this is just a political ploy because they think we'll say no - they probably want something else. We should say yes just to see what they do.

For a country that size, Ecuador has a very large military as a byproduct of their repeated wars with Peru.  While it is a political ploy, it isn't total nonsense.
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« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2012, 08:24:14 am »
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There definitely needs to be a Cuban base opened in Tampa Bay asap.
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« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2012, 09:26:41 am »
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I don't think Cuban Americans down there are open to another Latin American military present.
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« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2012, 09:45:12 am »
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There definitely needs to be a Cuban base opened in Tampa Bay asap.
Well that would be funny.  I'd tell you why, but it's more fun to keep you in the dark. 

5 internet points to the person to explain why this is funny!
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« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2012, 09:50:41 am »
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strongly support.
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« Reply #11 on: February 29, 2012, 11:25:16 am »
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If ever allowed, I'm sure Ecuador would find many benefits to taking the war on drugs to the source.

It's a matter of national security to Ecuador to squash the drug trade at the source, and if they can eliminate the demand, they can eliminate the drug trade. It'll be a long hard slog, but if we let them try, surely they can wipe out drug use in the United States.

Many Americans will undoubtedly end up in jail for their part in the drug trade, but letting the Ecuadorian military operate on our soil is of paramount importance to the national security of Ecuador, all Andean countries in general, and of course, our own.

When is the CIA going to assassinate him?

President Correa actually survived a coup attempt last year by his own police force, who were (if I recall correctly) upset that he was cutting their benefits.

If the CIA didn't attach itself to that, we can be pretty sure that they have no intention of assassinating the guy.

It's funny to imagine, but we might be past the point of assassinating Latin American Presidents just cause they gave us lip.  
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« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2012, 12:49:02 pm »
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The Germans have been operating a base (inside of a US base) in New Mexico for like 15 years.  link

that's just a training program, not really a base of operations.
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« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2012, 01:43:50 pm »
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A more pressing issue, who do you think will win the 2008 Democratic primary?  Are you really digging up nearly 5 year old articles so you can hop up on your soapbox?
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« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2012, 07:11:14 pm »
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Nobody knows why Lewis's idea is so funny?
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« Reply #15 on: February 29, 2012, 07:46:29 pm »
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Nobody knows why Lewis's idea is so funny?

It'd be like a reverse Guantanamo?
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« Reply #16 on: February 29, 2012, 08:04:20 pm »
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Nope.
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« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2012, 09:10:07 pm »
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It's funny to imagine, but we might be past the point of assassinating Latin American Presidents just cause they gave us lip.  

My fear of Obama having this exact opinion is the reason I voted for McCain. I most certainly hope we are not past that point and will never get there.
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« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2012, 09:16:34 pm »

There definitely needs to be a Cuban base opened in Tampa Bay asap.
Well that would be funny.  I'd tell you why, but it's more fun to keep you in the dark. 

5 internet points to the person to explain why this is funny!

IIRC, Tampa Bay was the staging area for the troops who invaded Cuba in the Spanish-American War.
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« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2012, 09:19:43 pm »
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There definitely needs to be a Cuban base opened in Tampa Bay asap.
Well that would be funny.  I'd tell you why, but it's more fun to keep you in the dark. 

5 internet points to the person to explain why this is funny!

You taking the Ybor City and its history as a Cuban emigre haven angle or the MacDill one.
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« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2012, 11:53:58 pm »
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Nope and nope.



edit-and it's nowhere near as complicated as you guys are making it
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2012, 12:25:00 am »
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Nope and nope.



edit-and it's nowhere near as complicated as you guys are making it

You thinking the 2012 RNC.
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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2012, 12:30:59 am »
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This is going to happen in the immediate future.
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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2012, 12:54:36 am »
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You thinking the 2012 RNC.
Nope...it's got nothing to do with politics.  It's a geography thing.  As a reminder...
There definitely needs to be a Cuban base opened in Tampa Bay asap.
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2012, 01:21:39 am »
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All those ships would get stuck in the mud?
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