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Re: Romney's February Surprise: Massive 20% Income Tax Cuts Across-the-Board
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Reply #25 on:
February 23, 2012, 06:13:34 pm »
Quote from: Torie on February 23, 2012, 12:27:52 pm
Quote from: Politico on February 23, 2012, 11:57:28 am
Quote from: Torie on February 23, 2012, 11:45:30 am
Do you think this tax tack by Mittens is a good public policy idea Politico?
Only if it is matched by
massive transferring of spending to the states
coupled with spending cuts, as I anticipate. There is no choice but to get the deficit under control. I really believe Romney can cut federal taxes, move a lot of spending onto the states (who can decide what stays and what goes), and cut the true waste. It is probably doable. If not, we'll cut taxes less than 20%, but still cut them as much as possible. The optimization goal is to minimize taxes
and
spending given our various constraints.
So the cut in Fed taxes is matched by an increase in state taxes, causing a further Balkanization of the US?
Well, it will likely mean an increase in state taxes if you live in heavily Democratic states (I feel your pain, Torie), but other states, swing and Republican states, will choose different courses (i.e., cut what is deemed superfluous). Perhaps this will cause Democratic states to become more anti-tax moving forward, of course.
Let's face it: Moving whatever spending can be moved onto the states is the only way to force out what people really don't want to pay for due to the fact states have to balance their budget whereas the federal government does not. It's really the best thing to do to get the federal deficit under control, and eventually our debt load too. Have the federal government commit to defense/federal law enforcement spending, various federal courts with regards to law/order, social security/medicare (obviously the minimum age for those born after 1964 will need to be pushed up to 70 eventually), and some scientific/technological research especially with regards to defense and space exploration (e.g., NASA). With regards to a bunch of other stuff, outside the broadly outlined scope, allow the 50 states to compete with one another. The best models will eventually win. Furthermore, people who want to live in Amerisweden can live in an Amerisweden state, and people who want to live free or die can live in a live free or die state. It is a lot easier to enact change one way or the other with decentralization.
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Re: Romney's February Surprise: Massive 20% Income Tax Cuts Across-the-Board
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This is just stupid.
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Re: Romney's February Surprise: Massive 20% Income Tax Cuts Across-the-Board
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February 23, 2012, 10:36:05 pm »
Just more evidence that if you actually care about the debt/deficit, you should be supporting Obama.
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Re: Romney's February Surprise: Massive 20% Income Tax Cuts Across-the-Board
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February 23, 2012, 10:48:21 pm »
Quote from: Politico on February 23, 2012, 06:13:34 pm
Quote from: Torie on February 23, 2012, 12:27:52 pm
Quote from: Politico on February 23, 2012, 11:57:28 am
Quote from: Torie on February 23, 2012, 11:45:30 am
Do you think this tax tack by Mittens is a good public policy idea Politico?
Only if it is matched by
massive transferring of spending to the states
coupled with spending cuts, as I anticipate. There is no choice but to get the deficit under control. I really believe Romney can cut federal taxes, move a lot of spending onto the states (who can decide what stays and what goes), and cut the true waste. It is probably doable. If not, we'll cut taxes less than 20%, but still cut them as much as possible. The optimization goal is to minimize taxes
and
spending given our various constraints.
So the cut in Fed taxes is matched by an increase in state taxes, causing a further Balkanization of the US?
Well, it will likely mean an increase in state taxes if you live in heavily Democratic states (I feel your pain, Torie), but other states, swing and Republican states, will choose different courses (i.e., cut what is deemed superfluous). Perhaps this will cause Democratic states to become more anti-tax moving forward, of course.
Let's face it: Moving whatever spending can be moved onto the states is the only way to force out what people really don't want to pay for due to the fact states have to balance their budget whereas the federal government does not. It's really the best thing to do to get the federal deficit under control, and eventually our debt load too. Have the federal government commit to defense/federal law enforcement spending, various federal courts with regards to law/order, social security/medicare (obviously the minimum age for those born after 1964 will need to be pushed up to 70 eventually), and some scientific/technological research especially with regards to defense and space exploration (e.g., NASA). With regards to a bunch of other stuff, outside the broadly outlined scope, allow the 50 states to compete with one another. The best models will eventually win. Furthermore, people who want to live in Amerisweden can live in an Amerisweden state, and people who want to live free or die can live in a live free or die state. It is a lot easier to enact change one way or the other with decentralization.
Funny, of course, because your guy, the one who's proposing all of this, is the one who brought a health care mandate to Amerisweeden.
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Re: Romney's February Surprise: Massive 20% Income Tax Cuts Across-the-Board
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Fiscal responsibility!
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Re: Romney's February Surprise: Massive 20% Income Tax Cuts Across-the-Board
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February 23, 2012, 11:20:54 pm »
Oh, hey, I remember when Bob Dole tried this to save
his
sinking campaign, too. Though he only wanted 15%. I guess Romney is 33% more bold than Bob Dole.
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