Well, they're going to get what they want.

[Keystone Phil]

I'm at 39 infraction points. About five of the most recent points were given because I questioned the process and motives. This will probably be deleted, too, but I wanted a chance to say that if I'm not here in the near future, it's because of others.

I'll leave you with one thing: you guys better step up and speak out against this nonsense because a select few have the ridiculous amount of power to punish people with whom they personally disagree. It's a mess.

[Zach Vega]

I've read a lot about this random infraction bulls*** lately. It's sad to see.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

Nobody is punishing you for personal disagreements.  Your claims here are 100% baseless.

[© Tweed the Younger]

I'm with you, Phil.  I've been at the forefront of this struggle and will remain so.  the public awareness of the issue within the membership is impressive.  whether anything will come of it, who knows.  but if not the Forum will cease to exist in its current and meaningful form.

[Proud Lieberal from Northeast]

Lol, Phil, and you're criticizing the system while trying to use it at the same time?

Keystone Phil   07:53:49 pm   Reporting a topic to a moderator.

[Keystone Phil]

Yes, I report the holier-than-thou people that lecture me and others about personal attacks...then personally attack me. You know, like people saying, "Don't get mad, Phil, but you're unpleasant." That attack is fine but mine is not apparently. No personal agenda? Please.

[Senator Napoleon]

Usually if someone calls one unpleasant, it is the former who is unpleasant. I've encountered such types on the forum. You gotta ignore them bud. No one cares what they think and you shouldn't either.

[angus]

I'm at 39 infraction points. About five of the most recent points were given because I questioned the process and motives. This will probably be deleted, too, but I wanted a chance to say that if I'm not here in the near future, it's because of others.

I'll leave you with one thing: you guys better step up and speak out against this nonsense because a select few have the ridiculous amount of power to punish people with whom they personally disagree. It's a mess.

I agree with you, generally, but I also can't imagine that you have done anything so outrageous that you should be banned.  Still, if you're on the edge, then maybe it's time to relax a little.  This forum is not a democracy, and as far as I know it makes no claim of being one.  Its moderators have the right to be as arbitrary and as capricious as Dave Leip will allow.  You have to accept that.  
  
There's a time for courage, and there is a time for serenity.  Perhaps now is the time for serenity.

Peace be with you.  

[Proud Lieberal from Northeast]

Yes, I report the holier-than-thou people that lecture me and others about personal attacks...then personally attack me. You know, like people saying, "Don't get mad, Phil, but you're unpleasant." That attack is fine but mine is not apparently. No personal agenda? Please.

I think there wouldn't be any problem right now if you were little less agressive toward other forumites. I'm not telling this to insult ot attack you, since you happen to be one of my favorite posters. That's why it would be sad to see you getting banned over this.

[patrick1]

Yes, I report the holier-than-thou people that lecture me and others about personal attacks...then personally attack me. You know, like people saying, "Don't get mad, Phil, but you're unpleasant." That attack is fine but mine is not apparently. No personal agenda? Please.

Phil, you forget that he made his living out of this  No offense against Torie in general but dissembling and baiting people is part of the trade craft.   

[Χahar]

Usually if someone calls one unpleasant, it is the former who is unpleasant. I've encountered such types on the forum. You gotta ignore them bud. No one cares what they think and you shouldn't either.

No, I'm pretty sure the problem for you is that you're an unpleasant person.

[Lief]

^^^5 infraction points.

[Keystone Phil]

Gee, I wonder how Phil ever got that many death points

(Feel free to report this.)

Let us know how many points Franzl has, Inks. This trolling is out of control.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

Gee, I wonder how Phil ever got that many death points

(Feel free to report this.)

Let us know how many points Franzl has, Inks. This trolling is out of control.

I don't post how many points other posters have (and we only know the top 10, and he's not in the top 10, so I don't know), and to be fair to you, since you feel that I'm biased in this situation, I'm differing this to Mikado to deal with.

[Senator Snowstalker]

REVOLUTION

[Fuzzy]

It wouldn't hurt your chances if you added some election maps, Phil.  Just saying. 

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

It's absurd that Phil think he's close to being banned.  He's not even halway to 100 points.  This is just more trolling to try to get attention, as usual.

[dead0man]

Did anybody else think of the Cool Hand Luke when reading the thread title?

Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

It's absurd that Phil think he's close to being banned.  He's not even halway to 100 points.  This is just more trolling to try to get attention, as usual.

if he's at 30, he's only one or two flame wars away from being carted off the field.  I think the JCrew thread last spring cost me 30...then Joe being threatened also cost me around 30, even though I wasn't directly involved.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

It's absurd that Phil think he's close to being banned.  He's not even halway to 100 points.  This is just more trolling to try to get attention, as usual.

if he's at 30, he's only one or two flame wars away from being carted off the field.  I think the JCrew thread last spring cost me 30...then Joe being threatened also cost me around 30, even though I wasn't directly involved.

You have deserved every point you've received.  Whether or not you were directly involved, you've trolled a lot on this forum.  So, if Phil can rack up 60 points in the next 2 months, he may be banned.  And if he keeps up the trolling at the rate that he has recently, I don't doubt that he could do that.

[So the Heroes Fall]

How has Phil been trolling? He's been overenthusiastic about a candidate (something that can hardly be unexpected on this forum) and rather abrasive in arguments, which he's been doing for 8 years.

BTW my statement about how I have never reported a single one of his posts remains true, and it's going to stay that win even if just on principle after this crap. Seriously. All the points about moderator overreach are being well proved with the snarky retorts here.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

He's personally attacked other posters, and trolled in general about 2012 politics (different than being enthusiastic about Santorum), and lately, he's convinced that I'm receiving money from the Romney campaign, and accused me of moderating based on being on their payroll.

[Fuzzy]

He's personally attacked other posters, and trolled in general about 2012 politics (different than being enthusiastic about Santorum), and lately, he's convinced that I'm receiving money from the Romney campaign, and accused me of moderating based on being on their payroll.

Was he exaggerating, maybe?

[Χahar]

Phil's behavior in this thread seems pretty clearly over-the-top to me.

[Senator Napoleon]

He's personally attacked other posters, and trolled in general about 2012 politics (different than being enthusiastic about Santorum), and lately, he's convinced that I'm receiving money from the Romney campaign, and accused me of moderating based on being on their payroll.

Was he exaggerating, maybe?

I think it is an ethnic thing. The mods hate Italians because we are too damn sexy.