Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
July 22, 2014, 10:41:09 pm
HomePredMockPollEVCalcAFEWIKIHelpLogin Register
News: Atlas Hardware Upgrade complete October 13, 2013.

+  Atlas Forum
|-+  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion
| |-+  Election What-ifs?
| | |-+  Alternative Elections (Moderators: Bacon King, Dallasfan65)
| | | |-+  Goldwater vs Kennedy 1964
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Poll
Question: Who would win?
Jack, dumass   -20 (83.3%)
Au H2O!   -4 (16.7%)
Other, explain   -0 (0%)
Show Pie Chart
Total Voters: 24

Author Topic: Goldwater vs Kennedy 1964  (Read 2773 times)
Jerseyrules
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2436
United States


View Profile
« on: February 24, 2012, 12:15:55 am »
Ignore

So Jack isn't assassinated; does Barry have a chance at winning, etc?  You know what to do.
Logged

Drink Too Much:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=147022.0

Skyrim now, Skyrim tomorrow, Morrowind Forever!

An Empire of Stars and Stripes:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156974.0

Quote
FOOL!  I AM Cathcon!

Endorsements:
Governor: Brown (CA), Corbett (PA), Scott (FL)
House: Emken (CA)
Other: Rob McCoy (CA Assembly)
OC
olawakandi
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 9645
United States


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2012, 05:13:56 pm »
Ignore

Logged
A.G. Snowstalker
Snowstalker
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 16907
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Political Matrix
E: -8.06, S: -4.96

View Profile
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2012, 05:17:26 pm »
Ignore

Growing economy+popular domestic reforms=still a landslide. Barry does a little better, though.
Logged

Jerseyrules
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2436
United States


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2012, 11:51:58 pm »
Ignore

Growing economy+popular domestic reforms=still a landslide. Barry does a little better, though.

Would he have a shot at California at least?
Logged

Drink Too Much:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=147022.0

Skyrim now, Skyrim tomorrow, Morrowind Forever!

An Empire of Stars and Stripes:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156974.0

Quote
FOOL!  I AM Cathcon!

Endorsements:
Governor: Brown (CA), Corbett (PA), Scott (FL)
House: Emken (CA)
Other: Rob McCoy (CA Assembly)
A.G. Snowstalker
Snowstalker
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 16907
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Political Matrix
E: -8.06, S: -4.96

View Profile
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2012, 08:11:17 am »
Ignore

Growing economy+popular domestic reforms=still a landslide. Barry does a little better, though.

Would he have a shot at California at least?

California's a swing state at this point. In a landslide, I doubt he can win.
Logged

Mechaman
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 13694
Jamaica


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 08:32:20 am »
Ignore



Let's see here: a pragmatic Catholic Democrat versus "Extremism in Defense of Liberty is No Vice?"

Sure, it's not a Johnson landslide but for some reason I doubt Goldwater gets over 200 EVs.

Logged

A.G. Snowstalker
Snowstalker
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 16907
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Political Matrix
E: -8.06, S: -4.96

View Profile
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 08:51:52 pm »
Ignore


Let's see here: a pragmatic Catholic Democrat versus "Extremism in Defense of Liberty is No Vice?"

Sure, it's not a Johnson landslide but for some reason I doubt Goldwater gets over 200 EVs.



Even then, I'd give Jack IA, NH, TN, and maybe OK and ND.
Logged

Jerseyrules
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2436
United States


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2012, 09:18:02 pm »
Ignore

But the GOP would certainly do better in Congress.  What if he completely abandoned his own campaign, knowing he could lose, and focused on helping Congressional Repubs?  How well would they do?
Logged

Drink Too Much:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=147022.0

Skyrim now, Skyrim tomorrow, Morrowind Forever!

An Empire of Stars and Stripes:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156974.0

Quote
FOOL!  I AM Cathcon!

Endorsements:
Governor: Brown (CA), Corbett (PA), Scott (FL)
House: Emken (CA)
Other: Rob McCoy (CA Assembly)
shua
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 11160
Russian Federation


View Profile WWW
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2012, 08:20:47 pm »
Ignore


Logged

Jerseyrules
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2436
United States


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2012, 10:36:22 pm »
Ignore




Interesting map, but I can't see a fifteen percent swing from 1960 in just 4 years.
Logged

Drink Too Much:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=147022.0

Skyrim now, Skyrim tomorrow, Morrowind Forever!

An Empire of Stars and Stripes:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156974.0

Quote
FOOL!  I AM Cathcon!

Endorsements:
Governor: Brown (CA), Corbett (PA), Scott (FL)
House: Emken (CA)
Other: Rob McCoy (CA Assembly)
shua
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 11160
Russian Federation


View Profile WWW
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2012, 02:58:06 pm »
Ignore




Interesting map, but I can't see a fifteen percent swing from 1960 in just 4 years.
while it's true that map is about 57-42 versus a near tie 4 years earlier, Nixon and AuH2O were very different candidates. I don't think the difference in performance we saw was mostly about JFK's assasination or LBJ's appeal in some parts, though both played a role.
Logged

RogueBeaver
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 13879
Canada


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2012, 07:25:22 pm »
Ignore

That map. Both the PWC and postwar liberalism are at their apex in the early to mid '60s. Flat taxation, privatizing Social Security and most governmental corporations, calling Medicare a "hoax"... none of that stuff flies until the '90s.
Logged

7.35, 3.65

« Les plus nobles principes du monde ne valent que par l’action.  »

- Charles de Gaulle


Is it excessive to hold a politician's feet to the fire for giving his base the run around at every turn?
Jerseyrules
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2436
United States


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2012, 12:48:16 pm »
Ignore

That map. Both the PWC and postwar liberalism are at their apex in the early to mid '60s. Flat taxation, privatizing Social Security and most governmental corporations, calling Medicare a "hoax"... none of that stuff flies until the '90s.

I thought 80's.  Alright what about tailoring his speeches and running in 68 as per Han's TL?
Logged

Drink Too Much:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=147022.0

Skyrim now, Skyrim tomorrow, Morrowind Forever!

An Empire of Stars and Stripes:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156974.0

Quote
FOOL!  I AM Cathcon!

Endorsements:
Governor: Brown (CA), Corbett (PA), Scott (FL)
House: Emken (CA)
Other: Rob McCoy (CA Assembly)
Iamcornholio
Newbie
*
Posts: 2
United States


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2013, 01:21:57 am »
Ignore

Landslide for John F. Kennedy.
Logged
barfbag
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4661
United States


Political Matrix
E: 4.26, S: -0.87

View Profile
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2013, 01:34:23 am »
Ignore



It gets closer but Goldwater loses 54-46. He wins traditional Republican states and the south where segregation was still popular. The country wouldn't have been as behind the Democratic ticket if not for the tragedy of JFK though.
Logged

Immortal Sockhead
Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Logout

Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines