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« Reply #100 on: March 28, 2012, 12:58:45 pm »
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I, of course, am fully with Tweed in this fight.
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« Reply #101 on: March 28, 2012, 01:44:43 pm »
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I strongly support this aspect of the Tweed platform.

so lend me your machinery and I'll make it happen.  endgame.

and btw your silly new Party is as guilty of what I decry as any other.  debating the distribution of progressive income tax brackets.  real consequential stuff for a message board sim bro.  start practicing what you preach.

We're now debating endorsing you for President, I'll have you know.

two posts in and I very much enjoy the tenor of the debate.
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« Reply #102 on: March 28, 2012, 02:10:57 pm »
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Hey.  Tweed.  Senate run.  How about it?
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« Reply #103 on: March 28, 2012, 02:33:02 pm »
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Hey.  Tweed.  Senate run.  How about it?

Dammit I was gonna post this Tongue
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« Reply #104 on: April 17, 2012, 09:37:13 pm »
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time for a bump.  Young Tweed will add some content shortly, including a comment on the upcoming midterm elections and how they relate to the Tweedist revolution; as well as Polnut's forthcoming abdication.
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« Reply #105 on: April 17, 2012, 09:39:58 pm »
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Atlasia's History requires Tweed.
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« Reply #106 on: April 23, 2012, 11:34:33 pm »
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The recent elections are interesting. You know, I waited until Sunday to vote. I was going to preference whichever progressive PMed to vote first. And that PM never came. Nobody asked for my vote. Nobody did much campaigning, apparently.

Winning one out of five seats is pretty embarrassing for the Atlasian left.

I can't help but feel partially to blame... Perhaps it is because I led the Atlasian left for so long that few others knew what kind of GOTV efforts etc. are required. But I don't know --- the Atlasian left was in shambles before the JCP, too.

The main reason I voluntarily stepped down from a major party leadership role is that I was tired of it. The GOTV, the intra-party diplomacy (there was a lot of it), the conventions... it just ended up feeling so exhausting. For an internet game! I simply didn't see why I should do something if I was no longer enjoying it.

But I was definitely also tired of always being blamed for Atlasia's problems. People complained when I recruited candidates! It was just absurd. Was I suppose to apologize for recruiting BRTD to run for Senate? Because you know what, the election would not have been competitive or interesting had I not done that. And while he may not have been the most active Senator ever, I hope the recent inactivity in the Senate is a reality check for you guys.

Even before the JCP became the largest party, I was heavily criticized for my partisanship., because I always voted JCP. But I firmly believed that a certain level of partisanship was required for an election game to thrive. And considering that it was not until the rise of the JCP and RPP in late 2008 that Atlasia began to reach its 2009 renaissance, I feel vindicated in that position.

The verdict is still out on whether or not the JCP/RPP dissolution has turned out well, but I'm optimistic. Obviously turnout is down to the absence of certain GOTV efforts. But we have a lot of new players and Senators as well.

This was a very crucial ingredient in the Atlasian Renaissance. New players. Most people involved in those two parties were new players. There were exceptions, and I suppose I wasn't technically new (as I joined in 2004, but I was a joke player for so long I may as well have been new).

I think the biggest problem we had with the JCP/RPP is that we often just recycled the same old people. Newbies felt like they had to play second fiddle to veterans. But the truth is as JCP Chair I often struggled to find candidates. It was frustrating, I had the votes but not the candidates. I was always happy when I had a new player to run for office. But in odd years, and a mid-term that was not good for progressives, there often weren't many people for me to attempt to recruit.

I'm hoping the timing of the dissolution will work out. This being a website dedicated to presidential elections, one of which is happening this year, we should see a surge in new forum members through November. We've already seen a lot of new people like Clarence join and get involved in Atlasia. We need to make sure we take advantage of all of the new posters who will be joining our forum.

Atlasia is in need of a fairly delicate balance. We need people who understand the most basic dynamics of this game, and those people will most likely be veterans, but we also need room to let new players grow. I think it's safe to say Comrade Tweed and I understand how Atlasia works, but we've already had our fun with party machines and what not (me with the JCP, Tweed with the AFDNC). I know I won't be motivated by that, and I doubt Tweed will either considering he's in a one man party.

The Tweed/Bgwah Regime will hopefully steer Atlasia through this critical time, providing guidance to new players and reminding us all what it is that makes this game thrive. This ticket isn't about us. This ticket is about reinvigorating Atlasia.
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« Reply #107 on: April 24, 2012, 01:20:27 am »
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Meh, definitely sounds like you're on the wrong ticket bro.

I don't agree that the Senate is dead. It is very much alive, especially compared to when boring nerds like Junkie were doing nothing with their seats. Players like Sbane, Scott, Clarence, and TJ you can tell are excited about being in the Senate (and in some cases I am excited to help defeat them). The New Atlasian Healthcare Act, for example, is already at eight pages of debate and counting. People are interested in debating health care, or withdrawal of troops, or legalization of drugs more than they are, not to reopen this old and stale can of worms, national iniatives or legislative petitions. The agenda of my administration would reflect this sentiment.

I would like to have a series of presidential debates with Tweed (and any other candidates with running-mates), because you bring the right problems to light but I find my solutions to be more substantive than Tweed's various proposals.
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« Reply #108 on: April 24, 2012, 01:50:36 am »
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I agree that the Senate has improved with some of the recent resignations. I just think it's silly that people slammed BRTD so much when he almost always voted and served out his term.

And I'm on the fun ticket, so Tongue
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« Reply #109 on: April 24, 2012, 02:12:17 am »
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The recent elections are interesting. You know, I waited until Sunday to vote. I was going to preference whichever progressive PMed to vote first. And that PM never came. Nobody asked for my vote. Nobody did much campaigning, apparently.

Winning one out of five seats is pretty embarrassing for the Atlasian left.

I can't help but feel partially to blame... Perhaps it is because I led the Atlasian left for so long that few others knew what kind of GOTV efforts etc. are required. But I don't know --- the Atlasian left was in shambles before the JCP, too.

The main reason I voluntarily stepped down from a major party leadership role is that I was tired of it. The GOTV, the intra-party diplomacy (there was a lot of it), the conventions... it just ended up feeling so exhausting. For an internet game! I simply didn't see why I should do something if I was no longer enjoying it.

But I was definitely also tired of always being blamed for Atlasia's problems. People complained when I recruited candidates! It was just absurd. Was I suppose to apologize for recruiting BRTD to run for Senate? Because you know what, the election would not have been competitive or interesting had I not done that. And while he may not have been the most active Senator ever, I hope the recent inactivity in the Senate is a reality check for you guys.

Even before the JCP became the largest party, I was heavily criticized for my partisanship., because I always voted JCP. But I firmly believed that a certain level of partisanship was required for an election game to thrive. And considering that it was not until the rise of the JCP and RPP in late 2008 that Atlasia began to reach its 2009 renaissance, I feel vindicated in that position.

The verdict is still out on whether or not the JCP/RPP dissolution has turned out well, but I'm optimistic. Obviously turnout is down to the absence of certain GOTV efforts. But we have a lot of new players and Senators as well.

This was a very crucial ingredient in the Atlasian Renaissance. New players. Most people involved in those two parties were new players. There were exceptions, and I suppose I wasn't technically new (as I joined in 2004, but I was a joke player for so long I may as well have been new).

I think the biggest problem we had with the JCP/RPP is that we often just recycled the same old people. Newbies felt like they had to play second fiddle to veterans. But the truth is as JCP Chair I often struggled to find candidates. It was frustrating, I had the votes but not the candidates. I was always happy when I had a new player to run for office. But in odd years, and a mid-term that was not good for progressives, there often weren't many people for me to attempt to recruit.

I'm hoping the timing of the dissolution will work out. This being a website dedicated to presidential elections, one of which is happening this year, we should see a surge in new forum members through November. We've already seen a lot of new people like Clarence join and get involved in Atlasia. We need to make sure we take advantage of all of the new posters who will be joining our forum.

Atlasia is in need of a fairly delicate balance. We need people who understand the most basic dynamics of this game, and those people will most likely be veterans, but we also need room to let new players grow. I think it's safe to say Comrade Tweed and I understand how Atlasia works, but we've already had our fun with party machines and what not (me with the JCP, Tweed with the AFDNC). I know I won't be motivated by that, and I doubt Tweed will either considering he's in a one man party.

The Tweed/Bgwah Regime will hopefully steer Atlasia through this critical time, providing guidance to new players and reminding us all what it is that makes this game thrive. This ticket isn't about us. This ticket is about reinvigorating Atlasia.
I thought pming players for turnout was discouraged...
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« Reply #110 on: April 24, 2012, 02:15:22 am »
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Since when? Tongue
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« Reply #111 on: April 24, 2012, 02:25:47 am »
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Since when? Tongue
Idk but that's what I thought it was like since I joined during the dissolution and only got one PM from Pacific governor about voting on some regional bill.
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« Reply #112 on: April 24, 2012, 02:58:54 am »
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So where is the update by the way?
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« Reply #113 on: April 24, 2012, 06:49:40 am »
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Atlasia's History requires Tweed.

Tweed needs to constantly amuse his ego, which is the only remarkable thing about him.
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« Reply #114 on: April 24, 2012, 11:34:29 am »
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Atlasia's History requires Tweed.

Tweed needs to constantly amuse his ego, which is the only remarkable thing about him.

An admirable quality, I'd say.
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« Reply #115 on: April 25, 2012, 04:05:48 am »
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would like to thank my subcomandante for the apologia and other remarks.



as for those who are looking for me to say something, or even to speak to me.  on the latter, I am here as I am always.  no scheduled release date on the next campaign statement or video -- I have to wait for the passion to strike and to brim over.  this is an emotional exercise, as much as some of you would like to make it some intellectual, technocratic thing.  so I will wait.  same thing I told this girl in October 2008.  we made this deal that the first one to masturbate had to do something for the other.  so obviously I lost within 65 hours.  she made me write a poem about her.  for two weeks I wrote nothing.  she was disappointed.  but I explained, I had to wait, had to wait, until I could "see it".  and then it came!  17 year old fool that I was, I titled it 'Nicotine Free Saturday Nights'.  but she loved it anyway.  there were some good parts, some stupid parts.  my favorite line: your warmth, once a novelty, fades into comfort as we drift.


in Tweedist Atlasia, we will all be at once warm and novel, and every Saturday night will be nicotine-free.
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« Reply #116 on: April 25, 2012, 04:13:12 am »
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would like to thank my subcomandante for the apologia and other remarks.



as for those who are looking for me to say something, or even to speak to me.  on the latter, I am here as I am always.  no scheduled release date on the next campaign statement or video -- I have to wait for the passion to strike and to brim over.  this is an emotional exercise, as much as some of you would like to make it some intellectual, technocratic thing.  so I will wait.  same thing I told this girl in October 2008.  we made this deal that the first one to masturbate had to do something for the other.  so obviously I lost within 65 hours.  she made me write a poem about her.  for two weeks I wrote nothing.  she was disappointed.  but I explained, I had to wait, had to wait, until I could "see it".  and then it came!  17 year old fool that I was, I titled it 'Nicotine Free Saturday Nights'.  but she loved it anyway.  there were some good parts, some stupid parts.  my favorite line: your warmth, once a novelty, fades into comfort as we drift.


in Tweedist Atlasia, we will all be at once warm and novel, and every Saturday night will be nicotine-free.
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« Reply #117 on: April 25, 2012, 04:19:02 am »
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try what?  'seriously' try to win, run a serious campaign, or whatever?  that's up to the electorate more than anything; I can guarantee you that if I do win, I would very much try to pump as much blood and amphetamines into this sh**t, my long lost child, as I could get my hands on.
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« Reply #118 on: April 27, 2012, 10:12:18 am »
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As an ostensibly "rich" person owning a Capital Region country estate and a Upper East Side townhouse, and an entrepreneur, what will President Tweed do for me- or not do to me?

Perhaps what Atlasia needs is a real-life Business Plot. Or at the least, a President Clarence or Constine.
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« Reply #119 on: April 27, 2012, 11:08:33 am »
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The daily struggle for reforms, for the amelioration of the condition of the workers within the framework of the existing social order, and for democratic institutions, offers to the Social-Democracy an indissoluble tie. The struggle for reforms is its means; the social revolution, its aim. Rosa Luxemberg, Reform or Revolution


Critics have noted the fantastic quality of my hitherto campaign.  An unapologetic disavowal of the Present, including its structures that are held so dear; and an emotional, though sometimes nebulous, fusion between the Old (ie, Atlasia before preferential voting spawned the UAC, Feb.-Apr. 2004) and an undefined Future.  This I referred to as “a systematic fusion of the reactionary-cultural with the revolutionary-political”.  This is the one-sentence definition of Tweedism, insofar as such a Symbolic construct can hold meaning.

And, of course, attempting to introduce a new system of thought that calls for nothing less than a disavowal of the present order, and naming it after myself, was bound to make a few enemies.  This is not a surprising occurrence; it’s been long accounted-for.  No, what may be a touch surprising to the untrained eye is that much of the resistance I face comes from within the ostensible ‘Left’. 

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A crucial question: is this a time for Popular Frontism, or can we make-do with a split on the Left?  Here the lessons of the 1930s, and of the tragic Stalinist Third Period, hold enduring value.  It was through a split of the reformist- and –revolutionary left that fascism swept Europe.  And it was through the successive Inflection point of Popular Frontism that we saw the first building blocks of the welfare state and industrial unionism in the United States, that shook the bourgeois to its core (and led a more imaginative sect within the class to ponder an overt fascism, as we now see with Simfan’s entertainment of a Business Plot).

And here, I tell you plainly and openly, with a mix of dismay and emotional control: the conditions are not ripe for the Tweedist revolution.  This is clear.  I firmly believe that it is a historical and existential inevitability, that if Atlasia is to survive, it will have to become re-integrated with the community at-large, and will have to endure a serious and painful re-thinking of the structures it uses to define itself.  But, despite the pitiful turnout in the Midterms, and despite the success of Tweedism in altering the terms and conditions of discussion (I will note that the factions on the Left that oppose Tweedism, define themselves in large part through their explicit opposition), the structures by-and-large are holding on, will continue to exist in the immediate future, and must be confronted on their own totalitarian terms.

Another thing is painfully clear, and motivates this shift in Tweedism above all-else: imaginative solutions will not come from the Whig-Right.  Clarence’s useless, platitudinous ranting provides us will all the evidence we need to consider this a truism.  We must go on from here.

So with this, I call for the beginnings of a move towards a Left Popular-Frontism.  This beginning does not begin with resignation to preconceived points or ideas, it begins with a dialog.  And I extend an open invitation to a serious discussion between the Tweedists, the Labor Party, and the segment of the Liberal Party currently aligned with Napoleon, to develop a plan of action.

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« Reply #120 on: April 27, 2012, 11:20:51 am »
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I will be posting my platform by the weekend- see if you can call that platitudinous Young Tweed
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« Reply #121 on: April 27, 2012, 12:45:45 pm »
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The party system must continue to be amended to allow for the continuation of our multiparty system- it should be strengthened, not confined to two. The right is also divided- there is the Moderate Party, the IFP, and of course our own Whigs. The Whigs represent a new tendency in the right, a desire for a more compassionate conservatism, one rejecting the "libertarian-wilderness" tendencies of the old Right, and supporting a more organic, community based conservatism. Indeed, we were once the Communitarian Party, and if I were to have my way it would still be known as such- but we are democratic.

It too opposed the party dissolution, but Atlasians have made their bed, now they must lie in it, and it is likely they want to. Certainly to me the cultural reactionary-ism of Tweedism is appealing- and perhaps to my fellow Whigs as well- but the authoritarian tendencies of Tweedism and its opposition to the capitalist process would do nothing but destroy our state. It can and should be reformed- indeed, but the model that has brought us prosperity should not be discarded. This is what we should be mindful of.

I would join with you, Tweed, in your call for the reintegration of Atlasia with the community of the Atlas Forum, but of course Atlasia is a real, corporeal, nation. However we disagree as to how to get there.

And no, I was not seriously suggesting a coup. But again I ask you: what shall be my fate in a Tweedist Atlasia?
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« Reply #122 on: May 01, 2012, 10:48:11 am »
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since Nappy has drawn up a fictional 'tour', I will too.


May 7: campaign kickoff in Philadelphia, Mississippi.  guest speaker: Art Laffer

May 9: Denton, Texas.  Teenage Cool Kids will be performing

May 11: will be meeting up with bgwah at an undisclosed location in King County.  then after that we will buy a cheap megaphone and scream things at the site of the old Kingdome.  guest speaker: Dean Logan


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« Reply #123 on: May 01, 2012, 02:45:17 pm »
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since Nappy has drawn up a fictional 'tour', I will too.

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« Reply #124 on: May 01, 2012, 04:10:09 pm »
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since Nappy has drawn up a fictional 'tour', I will too.


May 7: campaign kickoff in Philadelphia, Mississippi.  guest speaker: Art Laffer

May 9: Denton, Texas.  Teenage Cool Kids will be performing

May 11: will be meeting up with bgwah at an undisclosed location in King County.  then after that we will buy a cheap megaphone and scream things at the site of the old Kingdome.  guest speaker: Dean Logan


you get the idea



Why is Art Laffer speaking on behalf of a candidate of the CPoA (M-L-T)? Wasn't he a Reagan-area economist who pretty much invented supply-side economics?
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