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« Reply #175 on: February 28, 2012, 09:39:50 PM »

I think Mitt will overtake the entire Mitt (Michigan) by the time they're all counted.
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« Reply #176 on: February 28, 2012, 09:40:15 PM »

If Santorum can win the Washington caucus and get a bit of momentum back... Super Tuesday will be painful for Romney.
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« Reply #177 on: February 28, 2012, 09:40:19 PM »

11k, margin is narrowing.

What do I get if Santorum comes from behind? Smiley

Yeah, it was about 13,000 and now it is about 11,500. Still not time to call it - but, given what's left, Romney should do well.
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« Reply #178 on: February 28, 2012, 09:40:37 PM »

Does Rick have a shot at this still or am I gonna be having another wrong one
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« Reply #179 on: February 28, 2012, 09:41:03 PM »

11k, margin is narrowing.

What do I get if Santorum comes from behind? Smiley

A towel.
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« Reply #180 on: February 28, 2012, 09:42:03 PM »

Also, pay attention to precinct size.  Either Oakland County turnout is big ups (great for Romney), absentees are already counted (good for Santorum) or the remaining precincts tend small (a weird possibility that would probably help Santorum.)

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« Reply #181 on: February 28, 2012, 09:43:00 PM »

1) Santorum loses all Delegates in AZ and will split Delegates in MI
2) Double wins be Romney in AZ and MI

1 + 2 = Loss of momentum for Santorum -> worsening media image -> more difficult to fund raise

Bottom line: not a good night for Santorum, boost for Romney
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« Reply #182 on: February 28, 2012, 09:45:52 PM »

... and Santorum takes an 8-5 lead in the CDs.  MI-01, MI-03, MI-04 and MI-05 are really close, with the lead switching hands often.  MI-09 is still all out.
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« Reply #183 on: February 28, 2012, 09:45:59 PM »

W/ 45% reporting it is about 16,500 vote lead for Romney. Getting there.
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« Reply #184 on: February 28, 2012, 09:47:41 PM »

And w/ 50% reporting it is just shy of 20,000 votes
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« Reply #185 on: February 28, 2012, 09:48:45 PM »

... and Santorum takes an 8-5 lead in the CDs.  MI-01, MI-03, MI-04 and MI-05 are really close, with the lead switching hands often.  MI-09 is still all out.

We could have the situation that Romney wins the state overall and Santorum gets more Delegates.

Still Santorum will not get the momentum from gaining more delegates than Romney.
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« Reply #186 on: February 28, 2012, 09:49:02 PM »

I think there should be some projections...
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« Reply #187 on: February 28, 2012, 09:49:06 PM »

Yup, more than half of the votes in and Romney has a 4-points lead. It's over.

What a shame.
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« Reply #188 on: February 28, 2012, 09:49:47 PM »

Looks like every pollster screwed up at least 1 race so far this year ...
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« Reply #189 on: February 28, 2012, 09:50:00 PM »

Good night for Romney!! That makes me feel good!
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« Reply #190 on: February 28, 2012, 09:50:08 PM »

Still TCTC halfway in.

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AZ + MI were considered gimmes for Mitt. This is what we folks in the south call a raid. You damage the enemy by raiding on his home turf.

Santorum, if he wins in MI - Mitt is likely done. Mitt had his back up against the wall and still hasn't disposed of the challenger.

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Splits the delegates from MI and a win in WA to counter AZ - win for Santorum going into Super Tuesday.

This race ain't over by a long shot.
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« Reply #191 on: February 28, 2012, 09:52:02 PM »

W/ 45% reporting it is about 16,500 vote lead for Romney. Getting there.

A lot of this change seems to be urban areas becoming less underreported.  I still don't think Santorum can make this up, but I still assert that tonight's swing toward "Romney is a sure thing" has been one of the bigger election night over-reactions to information I've seen...

The last several dumps have been from the Detroit area and have been fairly eh for Romney.  But Santorum winning the remaining votes by 8% when Detroit is underrepresented...hard to believe.
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« Reply #192 on: February 28, 2012, 09:52:47 PM »

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3 point lead. Same as it's pretty much always been. TCTC.
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« Reply #193 on: February 28, 2012, 09:55:30 PM »

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3 point lead. Same as it's pretty much always been. TCTC.

Face reality. The likelihood of Santorum overcoming such a lead is near zero now.
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« Reply #194 on: February 28, 2012, 09:55:34 PM »

Are the vote counters taking a nap in AZ ?
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« Reply #195 on: February 28, 2012, 09:56:21 PM »

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3 point lead. Same as it's pretty much always been. TCTC.

Face reality. The likelihood of Santorum overcoming such a lead is near zero now.

Detroit is still underrepresented in the votes we have now. It seems quite unlikely that Santorum could get the kind of margin he'd need to still win with those outstanding votes.
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« Reply #196 on: February 28, 2012, 09:56:34 PM »

Objectively, does Rick have a shot?
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« Reply #197 on: February 28, 2012, 09:56:59 PM »

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We shall see.

If the margin is twice the variance I will call it. Until then - no.
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« Reply #198 on: February 28, 2012, 09:57:08 PM »

Still TCTC halfway in.

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AZ + MI were considered gimmes for Mitt. This is what we folks in the south call a raid. You damage the enemy by raiding on his home turf.

Santorum, if he wins in MI - Mitt is likely done. Mitt had his back up against the wall and still hasn't disposed of the challenger.

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Splits the delegates from MI and a win in WA to counter AZ - win for Santorum going into Super Tuesday.

This race ain't over by a long shot.

The republican nomination is not over at all, but Romney should get a boost coming out of these primaries. He has not really been able to profit from his boosts in the past, though.
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« Reply #199 on: February 28, 2012, 09:58:30 PM »


Unlikely, but Romney's margin in Wayne has been shrinking. There is a slim possibility that the more Romney-friendly precincts came in first. Most of the remaining counties that have not reported will probably break for Santorum, but it's unlikely they'll tip the scales.
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