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« on: February 28, 2012, 05:08:53 PM »

Santorum supporters have to recognize that democrats are voting for Rick because they think he's a joke.


As much as I hate to agree, it's true.  One of my friends, who was head of the College Dems here was in the Detroit Free Press today talking about how he voted for Santorum because Obama can beat him.  And I've seen him promoting this to his friends all week.

Yep. Here is Michael Moore on national TV talking about it:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/02/28/michael_moore_a_lot_of_my_democratic_friends_will_vote_for_santorum.html
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2012, 05:13:52 PM »


But presumably the exit polls will give us better data on this, right?

Is there any reason to believe they will answer exit polling questions honestly? This is chaos. It is exhibit A for why all future primaries/caucuses should be closed, not open to both parties.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2012, 05:27:52 PM »

Apparently, Romney is fine with Republicans tampering with Democratic primaries, just not the other way around:

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/02/romney-outraged-at-democratic-mischief.html

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No, Republicans cannot vote in the Massachusetts Democratic Primary. Only Independents and Democrats can. That at least makes some sense. Allowing Republicans to vote in Democratic contest, and vice-versa, is madness.
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2012, 05:49:57 PM »

Apparently, Romney is fine with Republicans tampering with Democratic primaries, just not the other way around:

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/02/romney-outraged-at-democratic-mischief.html

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No, Republicans cannot vote in the Massachusetts Democratic Primary. Only Independents and Democrats can. That at least makes some sense. Allowing Republicans to vote in Democratic contest, and vice-versa, is madness.

So, you are saying in 1992 Romney wasn't merely a registered independent, but,  rather really wasn't a self-considered "Republican" at all!

This is the man real Republicans should treat as one of their own?

As a DINO myself, I can appreciate the reasons why Romney remained registered as an Independent for years. Plus, Reagan was a Democrat at the age Romney was an Independent, so I don't get this type of attack on Mitt...
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2012, 05:51:57 PM »

Apparently, Romney is fine with Republicans tampering with Democratic primaries, just not the other way around:

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/02/romney-outraged-at-democratic-mischief.html

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No, Republicans cannot vote in the Massachusetts Democratic Primary. Only Independents and Democrats can. That at least makes some sense. Allowing Republicans to vote in Democratic contest, and vice-versa, is madness.

Right, but my point is that Romney apparently has no problem with voters supporting a candidate in the primary who they think will offer the weakest opposition to the candidate they really support.  Romney is basically saying that when he was an Independent in MA, he was an Independent in name only (IINO?), and was actually supporting Republicans, but would sometimes vote for the weakest Dem possible in the primaries to help the Republican.

That's essentially what's happening in Michigan.  Except you say that it's different because of the voter's party registration?  (Actually, does Michigan even have party registration?)  The voter motivation is identical either way.


Nobody is robocalling independents or organizing independents...
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2012, 07:44:40 PM »

New Hampshire's primary was only open to Republicans and Independents. Therefore your argument in favor of RINO Santorum Phil is falling flat.

Uh...my argument is about non-Republicans. Try...you know...reading the title and Santorum's quote.

You're defending his tactics, when it clearly isn't a mirror reflection of the electorate voting in New Hampshire. Independents and Democrats are two different groups.

Correct, I'm defending him going after voters that are eligible to vote (not that I like open primaries). I'm sorry that the incompetent campaign that you support didn't make an effort with these voters.

I hope Santorum's campaign doubles-down on this like you have. If they do so, they cannot come out of tonight as winners even if Santorum wins Michigan. If that happens, I can almost guarantee Mitt will spend tonight thanking Arizona and Michigan Republicans, and congratulating Santorum on winning the support of Michigan Democrats. Ouch! And if Mitt wins Michigan...well, hopefully there will still be a way to work in a playful joke about Santorum's support from Michael Moore and Co.
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