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Topic: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (6/12 - AR runoff, ME, ND, NV, SC, VA) (Read 19551 times)
Kushahontas
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (next: 6/5 - CA, IA, MT, NJ, NM, SD)
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Reply #250 on:
June 02, 2012, 10:12:26 am »
also, awful Larouchite Kesha Rogers is once again the Dem candidate in CD-22
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (next: 6/5 - CA, IA, MT, NJ, NM, SD)
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June 02, 2012, 10:49:28 am »
I'm not even going to try to summarize California, so here's what's interesting in the rest of 6/5's primaries:
Iowa - Nothing; there are Republican primaries in IA-01 and 02, but those seats are not likely to be competitive in November.
Montana - Governor on the R side, MT-AL on the D side (though this one will probably not end up being competitive in November either)
New Jersey - Pascrell v. Rothman in NJ-09, open NJ-10 (D).
New Mexico - NM-Sen and NM-01, both on the D side.
South Dakota - Nothing.
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (next: 6/5 - CA, IA, MT, NJ, NM, SD)
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Reply #252 on:
June 05, 2012, 12:04:57 am »
Some key California races.
Prop. 29 tobacco tax - California has one of the lowest cigarette taxes, and hasn't raised them in 14 years, but Big Tobacco is spending a ton of money to defeat it like the last Prop. Tossup.
2nd place US Senate - Who gets to lose to DiFi in November? I hope it's a real Democrat.
And then there are various elections where we already know which two presumably be on the November ballot, but tomorrow can be a judge of the level of support they have. Stark vs. Swallel. Berman vs. Sherman, and so on.
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (next: 6/5 - CA, IA, MT, NJ, NM, SD)
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Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 05, 2012, 12:04:57 am
2nd place US Senate - Who gets to lose to DiFi in November? I hope it's a real Democrat.
Feinstein is already
not
a "real Democrat"? Both Democratic and Republican loonies (especially on partisam sites, but occasionaly here too) continue to amaze me and make me laugh...
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (next: 6/5 - CA, IA, MT, NJ, NM, SD)
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June 05, 2012, 04:23:21 am »
Quote from: smoltchanov on June 05, 2012, 02:20:41 am
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 05, 2012, 12:04:57 am
2nd place US Senate - Who gets to lose to DiFi in November? I hope it's a real Democrat.
Feinstein is already
not
a "real Democrat"? Both Democratic and Republican loonies (especially on partisam sites, but occasionaly here too) continue to amaze me and make me laugh...
OK, she's no Manchin, but she's pretty disappointing compared to Boxer, she's not. Or Sherrod Brown, who represents a much more conservative state.
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Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 05, 2012, 04:23:21 am
OK, she's no Manchin, but she's pretty disappointing compared to Boxer, she's not. Or Sherrod Brown, who represents a much more conservative state.
Nevertheless, she is quite reliable moderate-liberal Democrat. No one will mistake her for a Republican. And by
my
standards there is no
really
conservative Democrats in Congress anymore (just as there are no liberal Republicans) - even Boren is moderate-conservative (especially when compared with really conservative Democrats of the past)
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (next: 6/5 - CA, IA, MT, NJ, NM, SD)
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June 05, 2012, 03:49:18 pm »
Yeah, Feinstein is awful. I'd love to see a real Democrat win.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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June 05, 2012, 08:02:24 pm »
Some results in from NJ-10: Don Payne Jr. leads Nia Gill 47-28. He's got a big lead in Essex, she's got a narrow lead in Hudson. Nothing from Union yet.
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June 05, 2012, 08:38:58 pm »
Looks like Don Payne Jr. will succeed his father. He's up 58-19 now.
Not looking promising for Steve Rothman. Pascrell leads him 92-8 in Passaic, while he only has a 71-29 lead in Bergen.
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June 05, 2012, 08:55:57 pm »
For NM-Sen, Martin Heinrich is beating Hector Balderas 73-27. Half of what's in is Bernalillo, but Balderas is winning most of the other counties that have reported results so far. In NM-01, Michelle Lujan Grisham is leading Eric Griego 42-36, with Marty Chavez a distant third.
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June 05, 2012, 09:46:23 pm »
Rothman might as well have run against Garrett. With 90% in, he's losing 64-36.
Also, another uninspiring win for Leonard Lance; he's ahead of his Some Dude challenger by only 62-38.
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (next: 6/5 - CA, IA, MT, NJ, NM, SD)
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June 05, 2012, 10:05:51 pm »
Quote from: smoltchanov on June 05, 2012, 05:00:32 am
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 05, 2012, 04:23:21 am
OK, she's no Manchin, but she's pretty disappointing compared to Boxer, she's not. Or Sherrod Brown, who represents a much more conservative state.
Nevertheless, she is quite reliable moderate-liberal Democrat. No one will mistake her for a Republican. And by
my
standards there is no
really
conservative Democrats in Congress anymore (just as there are no liberal Republicans) - even Boren is moderate-conservative (especially when compared with really conservative Democrats of the past)
Manchin is pretty right-wing, so whatever.
California polls have closed, but nothing seems to be reporting yet. It could be a slow night, 55% are expected to vote absentee.
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (next: 6/5 - CA, IA, MT, NJ, NM, SD)
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June 05, 2012, 10:11:33 pm »
Emken in a clear second at the moment (1.7% in).
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jfern
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (next: 6/5 - CA, IA, MT, NJ, NM, SD)
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June 05, 2012, 10:19:18 pm »
Usually in California it's heavily Republican areas that report first, but the results in so far seem a bit bay area heavy. Sadly the Republican endorsed candidate Emken is in a clear 2nd place for US Senate. Prop. 29 is passing, but it had better be if it's heavily bay area results so far.
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (next: 6/5 - CA, IA, MT, NJ, NM, SD)
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June 05, 2012, 10:26:49 pm »
Results are really early.
In CA-15, Stark is trailing to Swalwell in early results. There's a 3rd candidate with a good chunk of the vote too. They'll likely both be on the November ballot.
In CA-30, Sherman is leading Berman. They'll definitely both be on the November ballot.
For Presidential primaries, Obama is at 100% (what happened to my write-in damn it), Romney is 81%. American Independents and Greens have close races. Johnson is leading the Libertarian primary, and Rocky Anderson is leading Peace & Freedom.
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June 05, 2012, 10:29:29 pm »
More conservative areas reporting. Prop. 29 is down to 52.7%. It'll be sad if Big Tobacco has yet another victory in California. We have one of the lowest cigarette tax rates in the country. It's currently failing in Los Angeles county, which is not a good sign.
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Reply #266 on:
June 05, 2012, 10:33:42 pm »
It turns out the SOS results are really slow. Stark is up 45-35 in the Alameda county results.
http://www.acgov.org/rov/current_election/1717.htm
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Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 05, 2012, 10:05:51 pm
California polls have closed, but nothing seems to be reporting yet. It could be a slow night,
55% are expected to vote absentee.
I wonder how postal voting will work with election-day registration if it passes?
http://www.thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/01/493486/california-election-day-registration/
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AB 1436, which passed the Assembly by a 47-26 vote, would remove restrictions on when Californians could register to vote. If it becomes law, citizens would also be able to register at the polls on Election Day.
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Right now, Californians are only allowed to register up to 15 days before an election. Passing AB 1436 would change that and significantly boost voter turnout in the Golden State.
In the nine states (plus Washington DC) that currently allow Election Day registration, studies have shown the legislation boosted voter turnout by seven percentage points. Most states that have implemented Election Day registration are small or medium-sized; California could pave the way for large states to embrace this important step in voting rights.
AB 1436 will now advance to the Senate, where Democrats enjoy a 25-15 advantage.
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June 06, 2012, 12:01:56 am »
Quote from: greenforest32 on June 05, 2012, 11:02:52 pm
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 05, 2012, 10:05:51 pm
California polls have closed, but nothing seems to be reporting yet. It could be a slow night,
55% are expected to vote absentee.
I wonder how postal voting will work with election-day registration if it passes?
http://www.thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/01/493486/california-election-day-registration/
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AB 1436, which passed the Assembly by a 47-26 vote, would remove restrictions on when Californians could register to vote. If it becomes law, citizens would also be able to register at the polls on Election Day.
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Right now, Californians are only allowed to register up to 15 days before an election. Passing AB 1436 would change that and significantly boost voter turnout in the Golden State.
In the nine states (plus Washington DC) that currently allow Election Day registration, studies have shown the legislation boosted voter turnout by seven percentage points. Most states that have implemented Election Day registration are small or medium-sized; California could pave the way for large states to embrace this important step in voting rights.
AB 1436 will now advance to the Senate, where Democrats enjoy a 25-15 advantage.
If they did same day registration, they'd probably give you a provisional ballot at the polls.
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And here is why the blanket primary can be bad. CA-31 is considered a tossup, but the 4 Democrats are trailing the 2 Republicans.
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/us-congress/district/31
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Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 05, 2012, 10:29:29 pm
More conservative areas reporting. Prop. 29 is down to 52.7%. It'll be sad if Big Tobacco has yet another victory in California. We have one of the lowest cigarette tax rates in the country. It's currently failing in Los Angeles county, which is not a good sign.
You also have pretty much
the
lowest smoking rate in the country. I'd rather have fewer smokers & lower taxes than vice versa.
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Quote from: Beet on June 06, 2012, 12:27:49 am
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 05, 2012, 10:29:29 pm
More conservative areas reporting. Prop. 29 is down to 52.7%. It'll be sad if Big Tobacco has yet another victory in California. We have one of the lowest cigarette tax rates in the country. It's currently failing in Los Angeles county, which is not a good sign.
You also have pretty much
the
lowest smoking rate in the country. I'd rather have fewer smokers & lower taxes than vice versa.
Well, raising cigarette taxes certainly isn't going to increase the smoking rate.
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Re: 2012 Non-Presidential Primaries Thread (next: 6/5 - CA, IA, MT, NJ, NM, SD)
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Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 06, 2012, 12:29:01 am
Quote from: Beet on June 06, 2012, 12:27:49 am
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 05, 2012, 10:29:29 pm
More conservative areas reporting. Prop. 29 is down to 52.7%. It'll be sad if Big Tobacco has yet another victory in California. We have one of the lowest cigarette tax rates in the country. It's currently failing in Los Angeles county, which is not a good sign.
You also have pretty much
the
lowest smoking rate in the country. I'd rather have fewer smokers & lower taxes than vice versa.
Well, raising cigarette taxes certainly isn't going to increase the smoking rate.
Just point out California is probably Big Tobacco's least favorite state. It doesn't matter what laws you have, at the end of the day what matters is demand.
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Quote from: krazen1211 on January 17, 2013, 06:26:56 pm
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Quote from: Beet on June 06, 2012, 12:30:19 am
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 06, 2012, 12:29:01 am
Quote from: Beet on June 06, 2012, 12:27:49 am
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 05, 2012, 10:29:29 pm
More conservative areas reporting. Prop. 29 is down to 52.7%. It'll be sad if Big Tobacco has yet another victory in California. We have one of the lowest cigarette tax rates in the country. It's currently failing in Los Angeles county, which is not a good sign.
You also have pretty much
the
lowest smoking rate in the country. I'd rather have fewer smokers & lower taxes than vice versa.
Well, raising cigarette taxes certainly isn't going to increase the smoking rate.
Just point out California is probably Big Tobacco's least favorite state. It doesn't matter what laws you have, at the end of the day what matters is demand.
Why wouldn't they hate Utah more?
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Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 06, 2012, 12:11:32 am
And here is why the blanket primary can be bad. CA-31 is considered a tossup, but the 4 Democrats are trailing the 2 Republicans.
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/us-congress/district/31
Meanwhile, the reverse is happening in the neighboring 8th district, which has a Republican incumbent:
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/us-congress/district/8
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