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Erc
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Those Michigan robocalls
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March 01, 2012, 12:24:35 pm »
Sorry if this sounds incredibly hackish...
Has it been confirmed that those robocalls urging Democrats to vote for Santorum actually came from the Santorum camp (or an associated super PAC)?
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Re: Those Michigan robocalls
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March 01, 2012, 12:34:58 pm »
They had the Santorum campaign disclaimer on the end of them. If they'd been fraudulent, I think we would've heard a huge uproar by now.
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J. J.
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I don't he ever denied it.
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Politico
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Re: Those Michigan robocalls
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The Santorum campaign confirmed that they really did robocall Democrats. I know it's stunning and obviously not a footnote...
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argentarius
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March 01, 2012, 01:41:52 pm »
That may have done him in.
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March 01, 2012, 01:56:58 pm »
Quote from: argentarius on March 01, 2012, 01:41:52 pm
That may have done him in.
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March 01, 2012, 02:28:29 pm »
Santorum's campaign admitted to them as soon as they were asked about them.
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Were the robocalls only to Democrats?
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Re: Those Michigan robocalls
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Quote from: shua, gm on March 01, 2012, 03:17:11 pm
Were the robocalls only to Democrats?
It was a specific robocall only for targeted Democrats (did one of the unions leak a list of Democratic phone numbers to the Santorum campaign?). It even had a "labor" narrator with liberal rhetoric:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjgpOfT0FS8
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Re: Those Michigan robocalls
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March 01, 2012, 03:33:30 pm »
Quote from: Erc on March 01, 2012, 12:24:35 pm
Sorry if this sounds incredibly hackish...
Has it been confirmed that those robocalls urging Democrats to vote for Santorum actually came from the Santorum camp (or an associated super PAC)?
My father, a Republican, got one such call directed toward me
as a Democrat
. I was out of town most of the day at the end of a cross-country rail trip... and I chose to make an essentially meaningless vote in the Democratic primary to make political mischief on my part impossible.
I just asked. As an authoritarian populist, Rick Santorum scares me.
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Re: Those Michigan robocalls
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March 01, 2012, 03:37:18 pm »
Quote from: Politico on March 01, 2012, 03:28:44 pm
Quote from: shua, gm on March 01, 2012, 03:17:11 pm
Were the robocalls only to Democrats?
It was a specific robocall only for targeted Democrats (did one of the unions leak a list of Democratic phone numbers to the Santorum campaign?). It even had a "labor" narrator with liberal rhetoric:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjgpOfT0FS8
ah, okay. I wonder how too. But it was populist rather than liberal rhetoric. It's no surprise Santorum would go after union voters.
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Yelnoc
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Re: Those Michigan robocalls
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March 01, 2012, 03:46:02 pm »
Quote from: shua, gm on March 01, 2012, 03:37:18 pm
Quote from: Politico on March 01, 2012, 03:28:44 pm
Quote from: shua, gm on March 01, 2012, 03:17:11 pm
Were the robocalls only to Democrats?
It was a specific robocall only for targeted Democrats (did one of the unions leak a list of Democratic phone numbers to the Santorum campaign?). It even had a "labor" narrator with liberal rhetoric:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjgpOfT0FS8
ah, okay. I wonder how too. But it was populist rather than liberal rhetoric. It's no surprise Santorum would go after union voters.
There is a company that sells voter data such as party registration, ethnicity, and gender. I can't remember the name of it, but it is where PPP and most of the major polling companie[/flash]s get their data from.
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Re: Those Michigan robocalls
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March 01, 2012, 04:33:05 pm »
Quote from: Politico on March 01, 2012, 03:28:44 pm
Quote from: shua, gm on March 01, 2012, 03:17:11 pm
Were the robocalls only to Democrats?
It was a specific robocall only for targeted Democrats (did one of the unions leak a list of Democratic phone numbers to the Santorum campaign?). It even had a "labor" narrator with liberal rhetoric:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjgpOfT0FS8
Like that user comment below the vid
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Remember, if a candidate receives 1144 delegates, they get the nomination. After the Wednesday debate, CNN confirmed that Ron Paul is 2nd in delegates and is closing in on Romney for 1st.
The race is too close to call right now. We will begin to get a better idea as to who wins the GOP nomination in a few months time. But as of right now, it's a 2 man race between Romney and Paul.
OMG, on November 6, Ron Paul is gonna blast the ballot boxes and be elected God-Emperor of America!!!!!
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J. J.
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Re: Those Michigan robocalls
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March 01, 2012, 05:30:14 pm »
Marty Wienburg at least lied about it (that one is for Phil).
When negative calls go bad, they can really go bad.
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J. J.
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The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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America First
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Re: Those Michigan robocalls
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March 01, 2012, 06:50:23 pm »
Quote from: General Buck Turgidson on March 01, 2012, 04:33:05 pm
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Remember, if a candidate receives 1144 delegates, they get the nomination. After the Wednesday debate, CNN confirmed that Ron Paul is 2nd in delegates and is closing in on Romney for 1st.
The race is too close to call right now. We will begin to get a better idea as to who wins the GOP nomination in a few months time. But as of right now, it's a 2 man race between Romney and Paul.
OMG, on November 6, Ron Paul is gonna blast the ballot boxes and be elected God-Emperor of America!!!!!
As funny as it sounds, he's technically correct concerning delegates. Paul would have the 2nd most if the race ended today. However, if he keeps up his plodding pace, he has zero chance at getting anything resembling a plurality, much less a majority on the first round of balloting.
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Winfield
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Re: Those Michigan robocalls
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March 01, 2012, 10:45:29 pm »
Santorum robocall to Democrats:
Hi. This is Rick Santorum. Vote for me. You know Obama will make mincemeat out of me in November. So why not make it easy on yourselves and give me the nomination, so Obama doesn't have to run against Romney who you know very well will beat your guy.
Thank you and have a nice day.
I'm Rick Santorum and I approve this message.
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