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« on: March 02, 2012, 12:05:51 am »
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http://bangordailynews.com/2012/03/01/politics/elections/angus-king-mulling-run-for-senate/?ref=relatedSidebar

Looks like he's seriously considering a run and with Michaud (arguably a stronger candidate than Pingree) out of the race, could this possibly be a real fight for the Dems to win?

I operate under worst case scenario with this stuff so the second Snowe announced she was leaving, I counted it as an automatic Dem pick up. Who knows what could happen now especially if the GOP nominates a mainstream candidate...
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2012, 12:16:36 am »
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If he runs, my only comment is as follows: Hell. The f**k. Yes. Seriously, I'm almost certain I'll prefer him to anyone either state party can churn out.
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2012, 12:27:00 am »
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King would probably win any three way race.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2012, 12:29:31 am »
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Who would he caucus with?
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2012, 02:47:49 am »
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Who would he caucus with?

He endorsed Bush in 2000, Kerry in 2004, and Obama in 2008.
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2012, 06:47:08 am »
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Who would he caucus with?

I think nobody, if only to prove a point (he's always tried to remain very neutral between the parties), but in practice he's closer to the Democrats, if not by much.
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2012, 07:57:16 am »
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I'd prob support King if he did run.
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2012, 08:28:20 am »
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I'd prob support King if he did run.

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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2012, 08:29:31 am »
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Why does Maine have so many independent candidates?
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2012, 09:14:08 am »
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Why does Maine have so many independent candidates?
Because they're cool.

Endorsed. Especially since Michaud's not running.
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2012, 09:55:07 am »
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Senator King would be a dream come true.
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He hasn't been elected in over a decade, I'm not sure how that would work out. A Senate campaign as an independent is a lot different a gubernatorial one. He'd have to pick a caucus in order to get any committee assignments, so independent doesn't really go as far as it really seems it would.
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He hasn't been elected in over a decade, I'm not sure how that would work out. A Senate campaign as an independent is a lot different a gubernatorial one. He'd have to pick a caucus in order to get any committee assignments, so independent doesn't really go as far as it really seems it would.
Seeing as how he endorsed Kerry in 2004 and Obama in 2008, he would probably caucus with the Democrats.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2012, 01:01:28 pm »
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It would be pretty cool if we consistently had at least 2 independents in the Senate for 12 years (and at least one for 18).
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It would be pretty cool if we consistently had at least 2 independents in the Senate for 12 years (and at least one for 18).
I have often wondered why those two independents don't just start their own caucus. Do the Senate rules contain a provision explicitly stating that you must have x number of members before you found a new caucus?
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2012, 02:45:22 pm »
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I'd support him. Congress needs more independent voices. I feel he'd be a damn good senator. IIRC, he's a liberal on social issues.

ANd he'd probably caucus with democrats Smiley

In the case he doesn't run, do you think Elliot Cutler could win that seat as an indep.?
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2012, 02:53:46 pm »
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King should stay out.

A battle between left-wing Democrats and right-wing Republicans will be far more productive than pretending some independent can come to Congress and fix the problems which stem from our electoral and campaign finance systems.
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2012, 03:03:48 pm »
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A battle between left-wing Democrats and right-wing Republicans will be far more productive than pretending some independent can come to Congress and fix the problems which stem from our electoral and campaign finance systems.

A two-way would also almost inevitably end in a massive political bitchslap right over Maine's collective head, because I'm all but certain whoever else they'd elect would be horrible.
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2012, 05:10:48 pm »
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Just anecdotally, it looks like King was stronger in liberal areas both times he ran for Governor.

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=23&year=1994&f=0&off=5&elect=0
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=23&year=1998&f=0&off=5&elect=0
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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2012, 06:17:36 pm »
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King is a moderate Democrat without the D next to his name.
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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2012, 06:22:31 pm »
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Is he running as an indie? Or for ironies sweet, sweet sake, a Reform Party candidate?
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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2012, 07:17:20 pm »
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It would be pretty cool if we consistently had at least 2 independents in the Senate for 12 years (and at least one for 18).
I have often wondered why those two independents don't just start their own caucus. Do the Senate rules contain a provision explicitly stating that you must have x number of members before you found a new caucus?


Because one is a centrist and the other is the most far left guy in the Senate.
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« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2012, 07:20:28 pm »
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It would be pretty cool if we consistently had at least 2 independents in the Senate for 12 years (and at least one for 18).
I have often wondered why those two independents don't just start their own caucus. Do the Senate rules contain a provision explicitly stating that you must have x number of members before you found a new caucus?


Because one is a centrist and the other is the most far left guy in the Senate.
Well, yeah, but wouldn't it make a statement about "bipartisanship" and "independent thinking" and all that?
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« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2012, 11:54:56 pm »
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It would be pretty cool if we consistently had at least 2 independents in the Senate for 12 years (and at least one for 18).
I have often wondered why those two independents don't just start their own caucus. Do the Senate rules contain a provision explicitly stating that you must have x number of members before you found a new caucus?


Because one is a centrist and the other is the most far left guy in the Senate.
Well, yeah, but wouldn't it make a statement about "bipartisanship" and "independent thinking" and all that?

Bernie Sanders isn't an independent because he beleives in bipartisanship. He is an indy because he thinks the Dem are GOP lite. Lieberman is an indy because he was GOP lite and the base got tired of that. Plus they would probably disagree on foreign policy, quite a lot.
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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2012, 12:42:15 am »
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It would be pretty cool if we consistently had at least 2 independents in the Senate for 12 years (and at least one for 18).
I have often wondered why those two independents don't just start their own caucus. Do the Senate rules contain a provision explicitly stating that you must have x number of members before you found a new caucus?


Because one is a centrist and the other is the most far left guy in the Senate.
Well, yeah, but wouldn't it make a statement about "bipartisanship" and "independent thinking" and all that?

Bernie Sanders isn't an independent because he beleives in bipartisanship. He is an indy because he thinks the Dem are GOP lite. Lieberman is an indy because he was GOP lite and the base got tired of that. Plus they would probably disagree on foreign policy, quite a lot.

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This. Plus he realizes it would be catastrophic for the Dems if were representing Vermont as an official member of the Progressive Party. It's more a political statement on Sanders's part for him to be an independent, than trying to harm the Democrats' political image like Lieberman has.
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