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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2012, 12:42:15 am »
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It would be pretty cool if we consistently had at least 2 independents in the Senate for 12 years (and at least one for 18).
I have often wondered why those two independents don't just start their own caucus. Do the Senate rules contain a provision explicitly stating that you must have x number of members before you found a new caucus?


Because one is a centrist and the other is the most far left guy in the Senate.
Well, yeah, but wouldn't it make a statement about "bipartisanship" and "independent thinking" and all that?

Bernie Sanders isn't an independent because he beleives in bipartisanship. He is an indy because he thinks the Dem are GOP lite. Lieberman is an indy because he was GOP lite and the base got tired of that. Plus they would probably disagree on foreign policy, quite a lot.

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This. Plus he realizes it would be catastrophic for the Dems if were representing Vermont as an official member of the Progressive Party. It's more a political statement on Sanders's part for him to be an independent, than trying to harm the Democrats' political image like Lieberman has.
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« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2012, 06:29:42 am »
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I don't think forming a caucus would do you any good in power terms or win you any committee assignments unless you were the official minority.
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« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2012, 09:53:51 am »
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Yep King should win this and it will turn the Senate on its head if he is the tie-breaking vote.
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« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2012, 02:01:49 pm »
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King is announcing tonight that he will run for the seat. Wow.
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« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2012, 03:31:44 pm »
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Leans Democratic to Toss Up.
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« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2012, 04:44:43 pm »
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King's donated to Obama's re-election campaign.
http://www.pressherald.com/news/King-has-made-up-his-mind-Pingree-hasnt.html

Something makes me doubt that he's really going to caucus with the GOP. That said, I'd support him over Baldacci or Pingree.
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« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2012, 04:52:15 pm »
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Though it's lost some of its former glory in recent years, I support Angus King's moustache joining Jon Hoeven's in the United States Senate.
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« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2012, 04:57:41 pm »
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Endorsed with all the endorsement power in my being, because I have no doubt both state parties' candidates will objectively blow. I look forward to having a second actually-independent Independent in the Senate.
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« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2012, 05:30:25 pm »
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I'm a democrat for King Smiley It'll be a democrat vs. King. And King will win with the support of about 1/3 of republicans, 2/3 of independents and about 15-20% of democrats, IMHO.
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« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2012, 05:38:39 pm »
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Safe Independent.

I doubt the GOP's candidate will be strong enough to win a three-way race like LePage did.
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« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2012, 06:28:33 pm »
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If King says he'll caucus with the Democrats, Republicans shouldn't forget about this race - nominating someone who could keep the far right while also being able to get at least a portion of moderates could make this a close, three-way race.
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« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2012, 09:05:53 pm »
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Safe Independent.

I doubt the GOP's candidate will be strong enough to win a three-way race like LePage did.

The man hasn't won an election since 1998. It's anything but safe.
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« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2012, 09:18:14 pm »

The man hasn't won an election since 1998. It's anything but safe.

And yet, fourteen years after winning that election, his favorability rating currently stands at 62%.
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« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2012, 03:27:27 am »
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Excellent. My most favorite candidate in the state (we have similar views and both are Indies to boot...)
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« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2012, 04:21:32 am »
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The man hasn't won an election since 1998. It's anything but safe.

And yet, fourteen years after winning that election, his favorability rating currently stands at 62%.

And that's not even counting for the fact that the entirety of his old voter base from the 90s will almost certainly still remember and support him.
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« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2012, 09:47:54 am »
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PPP says that King has a 62% favorability.

He also gets 1/3 of Dems in their poll, 1/4 of Reublicans and more than 50% of Independents.

If we use PPP's previous samples of 40D, 35R and 25I, King currently has about 35-37% support in the Senate election. Because about 15% will be undecided, it's fair to say that King is currently ahead in the race by anywhere between 5% and 10%.
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« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2012, 02:01:53 pm »
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King leads in a three way matchup.

King (I) - 36%
Pingree (D) - 31%
Summers (R) - 28%

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/03/06/politics/poll-shows-king-would-win-three-way-race/
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« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2012, 02:27:56 pm »
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Patty Murray doesn't rule out backing King.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/214425-top-senate-dem-doesnt-rule-out-backing-independent-ex-gov-in-maine
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« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2012, 02:45:59 pm »
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Ha, cut losses and run. She's turning out far more competent as DSCC chair than Menendez was, I'll give her that.
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« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2012, 06:23:30 pm »
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Just what Democrats need. Another Lierberman.
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« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2012, 06:36:15 pm »
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Ha, cut losses and run. She's turning out far more competent as DSCC chair than Menendez was, I'll give her that.

Smart move, its better to have a Lieberman than a LePage like character in the Senate as a result of the left vote being split.
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« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2012, 06:45:06 pm »
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Hmmm...

Actually King made a number of small gaffes today that suggest he might be a little rusty, 14 years after his last election.
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« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2012, 01:40:40 pm »
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Pingree not running. SAFE King??
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« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2012, 03:12:09 pm »
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Pingree not running. SAFE King??

Given Baldacci is the Maine Dems' only other big name option and he's likely still not very popular with voters, pretty much what you said.
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« Reply #49 on: March 07, 2012, 05:01:27 pm »
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Looks like there'll be something good to watch on election night after all.
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