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CLARENCE 2015!
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« on: March 12, 2012, 11:34:13 AM »

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/12/justice-department-files-objection-to-texas-voter-id-law/

1- I have to present a picture ID to vote... I thought this was the case across the country

2- This is yet another case of the Justice Dept wielding its johnson around town- I am NOT a big believer int he supremacy of states rights but when a state pushes a law which matches the law in other states the DOJ should not stop them. This combined with the NYPD investigation combined with Fast andFurious makes it clear to me that Holder is either pushing his own agenda or is showing us what an Obama 2nd term would look like

It is the actions of Holder and the Justice Department more then many things (Keystone,contraception,gas prices are others) that will motivate the right whoever the nominee is... I for one am ready to support Romney after tomorrow if he does well- we NEED to defeat Obama
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2012, 11:37:19 AM »

can Texas appeal this to the SCOTUS in time for voting in Nov 2012?
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2012, 11:39:56 AM »

can Texas appeal this to the SCOTUS in time for voting in Nov 2012?

Yep. It's already at the DC circuit.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 12:21:45 PM »

There's no uniform policy about states use of voter id. There's a useful graphic here to show the status around the country.
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 12:35:47 PM »

Clarence, the proposed Texas law is much stricter than Florida's. There are several states that have in the past year or so been trying to put through voter ID laws stricter than anything that's been seen in the past several decades.
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2012, 12:39:47 PM »

Clarence, the proposed Texas law is much stricter than Florida's. There are several states that have in the past year or so been trying to put through voter ID laws stricter than anything that's been seen in the past several decades.

The correct comparison is to Indiana's law as that one was already litigated.
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2012, 12:41:46 PM »
« Edited: March 12, 2012, 12:43:31 PM by Nathan »

Clarence, the proposed Texas law is much stricter than Florida's. There are several states that have in the past year or so been trying to put through voter ID laws stricter than anything that's been seen in the past several decades.

The correct comparison is to Indiana's law as that one was already litigated.

It was? I wasn't aware of this, thank you for alerting me.

I note that Indiana's law seems to have an exception for indigence whereas Texas's doesn't.
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2012, 12:53:40 PM »

Clarence, the proposed Texas law is much stricter than Florida's. There are several states that have in the past year or so been trying to put through voter ID laws stricter than anything that's been seen in the past several decades.

The correct comparison is to Indiana's law as that one was already litigated.

It was? I wasn't aware of this, thank you for alerting me.

I note that Indiana's law seems to have an exception for indigence whereas Texas's doesn't.


http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/indy-dems.php

The thing you probably want is

Entry granting Defendants' Motion for Summary Judgment  (entered 4/14/06).



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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2012, 01:41:58 PM »
« Edited: March 12, 2012, 01:53:39 PM by Gass3268 »

These laws just seem really unnecessary as the number of cases of voter fraud are extremely minimal and they create a burden for minorities, elderly, homeless, unemployed and college students to exercise their right to vote. There has to be a better way of doing this without putting an extra burden on people.  

Also this law was declared unconstitutional by two different judges in the past week in Wisconsin:

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/judge-rules-voter-id-law-is-unconstitutional-permanently-bars-implementation/article_ae3e0710-6c70-11e1-b493-0019bb2963f4.html
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2012, 09:24:29 PM »

Good. The fact that Texas's law would have allowed a handgun license, but not a student ID, reeks of partisanship. Of course, supporters won't say that, but it is clear what their goals are.
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2012, 09:31:26 PM »

The intent of the law is all wrong, it's about controlling election outcomes and that's not right.
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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2012, 10:39:11 PM »

This type of voter fraud is NOT a real problem, but an invented problem that gives Republicans an excuse to disenfranchise Democrat-leaning voters.
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2012, 12:41:25 PM »
« Edited: March 13, 2012, 12:42:57 PM by Unofficial Southern Voter »

The fact that Texas's law would have allowed a handgun license, but not a student ID, reeks of partisanship.

That's the problem with TX GOP. They always over reach
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2012, 01:00:32 PM »

The fact that Texas's law would have allowed a handgun license, but not a student ID, reeks of partisanship.

a handgun licence is a form of official state id, a student ID isn't
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2012, 06:58:58 PM »

The fact that Texas's law would have allowed a handgun license, but not a student ID, reeks of partisanship.

a handgun licence is a form of official state id, a student ID isn't

That, and a CHL is one of the most secure forms of ID. You need a lot of paperwork to get one.
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2012, 01:59:34 PM »

What the people think... =p

http://www.theonion.com/articles/justice-department-rejects-texas-voter-id-law,27631/
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2012, 02:09:24 PM »

The people actually support voter ID in landslide margins.
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