Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 17, 2014, 10:30:25 am
HomePredMockPollEVCalcAFEWIKIHelpLogin Register
News: Atlas Hardware Upgrade complete October 13, 2013.

+  Atlas Forum
|-+  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion
| |-+  Election What-ifs? (Moderator: Bacon King)
| | |-+  The Confession
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 Print
Poll
Question: How is The Confession so Far?
Great!   -11 (64.7%)
Good   -3 (17.6%)
Okay   -2 (11.8%)
Bad   -0 (0%)
You should stop now!   -1 (5.9%)
Show Pie Chart
Total Voters: 17

Author Topic: The Confession  (Read 5221 times)
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« on: March 08, 2012, 12:23:17 am »
Ignore

Trenton, New Jersey- November 8, 2005

Ladies and Gentlemen, tonight you have sent a strong message.  You sent a message that we will continue to build will be a government of Republicans, independents and, yes, Democrats -- a government for all the people.  We will continue the work that we started four years ago, and continue to make this state, my state, the State of New Jersey, better than ever.  We have come so far, but we still have a lot of work to do. I would like to thank all of you who have supported me for the past four years, my volunteers, my campaign staff, my wonderful wife Dina and my two daughters Morag and Jacqueline for their continual support and their source of strength...  



Novemeber 9, 2005
After all the votes were counted Jim McGreevey beat his challenger, Douglas Forrester, by a margin of 54% to 43%, a somewhat amazing feat considering the where his approval ratings stood not only moths before the election. McGreevey had managed to gain an increase in popularity by finally coming to an agreement with the state legislature on a sensible state budget, implementing the EZpass system in the state, and implementing a drastic reform of the infamous New Jersey pay to play system.

Elections Results 2005



After his reelection in New Jersey McGreevy landed on the National Stage, some even calling him the next president of the United States.  However, there were problems that had been simmering between him and his wife Dina since he was first elected in 2001. The underlying problems that would pull apart his marriage and emerge on an international scale later on, were only know by McGreevey and one other person, Golan Cipel. But for now McGreevey was taking delight and basking in his reelection.

Novemer 9, 2005 News Articles
New York Times: After Big Win McGreevey Lands on the National Stage

The Star-Ledger: McGreevey: The Democrats Solution to Hillary?

Philadelphia Inquirer: Whats Next for the Young New Jersey Governor?
« Last Edit: March 08, 2012, 12:35:07 am by HST1948 »Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 12:37:46 pm »
Ignore

January 17th, 2006- Trenton, New Jersey- Governor James McGreevey Inaugurated for his second term.


New York Times Januray 18th, 2006
"Declaring that the 'days of growth, prosperty, and bipartisan governing are a head and runaway spending are over,' James E. McGreevey was sworn in for a second time as New Jersey's 51st governor today and challenged state residents to help him to continue to improve their educational system and deter terrorism even while continuing to maintain the progress in addressing the improving, but still perilous fiscal crisis.

In an inaugural address notable for its optimism, Mr. McGreevey, 44, assured residents that  the state must fulfill its obligation to provide children with a good education. Pointing to the outpouring of good will after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Mr. McGreevey said that New Jersey could emerge from the recession even stronger if state residents sought to sustain that sense of unity.

''So this is my call to action,'' he said. ''In the days ahead, each citizen of New Jersey should demand more of me. That is your right. But you also must ask more of yourselves. That is your responsibility.''
« Last Edit: March 08, 2012, 03:16:48 pm by HST1948 »Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2012, 12:49:22 pm »
Ignore

February 2006- Troubles at Drumthwacket, Princeton New Jersey


Despite a post inaugural rise in popularity and his rise to the national stage, all was not well in New Jersey.  Jim and Dina's marriage had degraded past the point of repair.  Dina complained that she never saw Jim and when she did they never talked, they hardly ever had sex any more, and she was over hear by one of the governors aids saying "our marriage has been reduced to an acquaintanceship that can be conducted over the phone".

Jim felt the same way, and felt that the office of governor, his affair with his staffer Golan Cipel, and his national ambitions were crushing him.  On February 3rd, 2006 after a long night of discussion, and several bottles of wine from Upstate New York, the couple had come to the mutual decision that a divorce was the only way that the two of them could both realize their dreams.  Dina would take their two daughters and move in with her parents, while Jim would see them on the weekend.  Jim did not disclose to Dina that he was gay, or had been carrying on an affair for the past few years.  The couple ended their marriage amiably, and decided that they would tell the press the next day at a One O'clock press conference.  The extent to which McGreevey's second divorce would hurt his looming presidential campaign is unknown, but both Dina and Jim agreed it was for the best. 
Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
ChairmanSanchez
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 13137
United States


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2012, 04:02:25 pm »
Ignore

This is interesting Smiley Continue!
Logged

America's like that hot chick everyone wants, and illegal immigrants are all the nerds that she should say "no" to.
SirNick
sirnick
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4477
United States


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2012, 06:14:16 pm »
Ignore

I like. Continue!
Logged
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2012, 07:06:28 pm »
Ignore

February 4th, 2006- Drumthwacket, Princeton New Jersey- The McGreevey's Announce their Separation and Divorce

Jim McGreevey speaks with Dina at side:
"If you are lucky in life you find someone who makes you better than you could ever hope to be, and you have to opportunity to celebrate that relationship with marriage .  I found that person in Dina.  We have spent the past six years together living a wonderful life, but the stress of public life, the governorship, and personal differences has for whatever reason drawn us apart. We have started a beautiful family and are raising two daughters, Morag and Jacqueline who are the lights of our life. Through no ones fault but circumstance we have drifted apart and our relationship has lost what made our it a marriage. I look back on these past six years with no regrets, but I realize that it is time to end this chapter in our lives and move forward so both of us can be happy again. Although divorce is never easy, sometimes it is the best way to save what is so special in a marriage or relationship. Throughout this entire process our main concern will be to make sure our two daughters live as normal of a life as possible, that we are involved in their lives, and they are assured every minute of every day that they have the love and support of both of their parents. Throughout this process Dina and I ask for your continued prayers and support not only for us, but for our families. Thank you"

February 5th- Divorce Fall Out
Star-Ledger Headline: McGreevey's Separate: Emotional Speech by Governor Well Received
Philadelphia Inquirer: New Jersey Governor Divorced
New York Post: New Jersey Governor's Second Divorce: Gay or Affair?

As Dina began to prepare her things to be moved from Drumthwacket to her parents house the massive governors mansion was silent.  McGreevey spent most of his time in the office dedicating himself to the work at hand.  Occasionally he would sit down in the upstairs living room with Dina and the kids for an attempt at family bonding.  Conversations with Dina were short, but more pleasant than before when they decided to get the divorce.  She still knew nothing about Golan Cipel, no one did.

Golan had bought a town home within walking distance from Drumthwacket, so McGreevey could say he was going running, which was not atypical, and he would then go over to Golan's place.  If he did have to be driven or escorted to be with Golan, he always made up some official reason for being with him.  No one besides the two of them knew anything.  Some of the staff were suspicious of the "close relationship" the two of them exhibited, but most wrote it off as a close friendship.  

McGreevey avoided the press for the next month or so in attempt to let the divorce issue blow over. Quinnipiac polling showed his approval dipped to 49% with 45% disapproving about a week after his speech from from 55%/ 40% immediately after his inauguration. The governors staff didn't seem extremely worried, and were expecting worse. They were sure that his numbers would bounce back once voters forgot about the divorce. The The governor was now focused on a long shot attempt to win the Democratic Nomination for the Presidency.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2012, 07:11:14 pm by HST1948 »Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2012, 07:28:40 pm »
Ignore

McGreevey's Back at Work


In early march, McGreevey bolstered his image as a reformer governor by issuing an executive order effectively killing the states infamous pay to play system.  In June and July McGreevey's political skills would be tested as he teased his way through negotiating a deal with the New Jersey legislature to compromise on a budget that would avoid a devastating state shut down.  The Governor and Legislature agreed on a budget on June 29th and McGreevey signed the budget on June 30th avoiding a State Government shutdown that would have gone into effect July 1st.   In August of that year Governor McGreevey announced that he would veto any plan by the State Legislature to monetize the New Jersey turnpike, citing "the middle class does not need the state of New Jersey to tax them on their way to work".

By the December of 2006 McGreevey's approval rating had remained steady at 53% approving to 43% disapproving. After talking and praying over the issue with his family, staff, and especially his two daughters and even his two ex-wived Kari and Dina he decided that he would seek the Democratic nomination for the presidency. McGreevey's staff assured him that he would be a severe underdog, and that it would be best to announce before the summer of 2007. McGreevey decided that it was time to start to call some old contacts and begin laying the ground work for a national campaign.   



« Last Edit: March 08, 2012, 07:36:47 pm by HST1948 »Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2012, 07:49:04 pm »
Ignore

January 2007- An Unexpected Death



Senator Frank Lautenberg passed away from a massive stroke at his home in Patterson New Jersey at the Age of 83 years old.  Governor McGreevey gave a heart warming speech where he reflected on Lautenberg as a role model and personal friend. The next day McGreevey announced that Lautenberg would be replaced by Congressman Bob Menendez of New Jersey's 13th Congressional District, making him the sixth Latino to serve in the United States Senate.
Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2012, 08:06:36 pm »
Ignore

And So It Begins...

By the End of 2006 three Democrats, Former North Carolina Senator and Vice Presidential Nominee John Edwards, Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack, and Former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel, had launched campaigns to run for president, while three others, Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich,  Connecticut Senator Chris Dodd and Delaware Senator Joe Biden had indicated that they are doing all of the preparatory work to run. Hillary Clinton is seen as paving her way to announce her candidacy later in 2007. Meanwhile another rising star, Barack Obama, has changed course and is now considering a run for the presidency. McGreevey still sees and opening for him to steal the nomination. In an interview in December 2006, McGreevey states that he "seriously weighing a run for the Democratic Nomination".

« Last Edit: March 08, 2012, 11:21:03 pm by HST1948 »Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2012, 11:59:50 pm »
Ignore

January 15, 2007: Governor McGreevey Announces Exploratory Committee For the Presidency

McGreevey Addresses Reporters in Trenton New Jersey-

"After months of prayer, consideration, and discussion with my family, friends, and colleagues I have decided to run for president of the United States of America.  I believe that my experience as the Governor of New Jersey, a reformer and a father give me the experience needed to guide this country through the challenges we face.  I'm in this race for the long Haul and I'm in it to win!"



McGreevey is the seventh Democratic candidate to announce a campaign or exploratory committee for this election, the others being Joe Biden, Tom Vilsack, Chris Dodd, Dennis Kucinich, John Edwards, and Mike Gravel.  Most pundits expect Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Bill Richardson to cap off the field by announcing exploratory committees before the end of January. Although the media reacted favorable to the young Governor's entrance into the race, the general consensus was that he was a long shot candidate against Clinton, Obama and Edwards.  This consensus was confirmed by a Gallup poll released two days after McGreevey announced the formation of his exploratory committee.

Gallup 2008 Democratic Primary Poll
Clinton: 33%
Obama: 19%
Edwards: 14:
McGreevey: 5%
Richardson: 5%
Biden: 3%
Dodd: 2%
Kucinich: 1%
Vilsack: 1%
Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
JulioMadrid
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 6359
Spain


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2012, 01:56:33 pm »
Ignore

He'd be a good president.
Logged

My evolution (by The Political Matrix):
E: -6.06 -> -6.97 -> -6.97 -> -8.13 -> -7.29 -> -8.26 -> -8.65 -> -7.03
S: -6.78 -> -6.09 -> -7.30 -> -7.13 -> -8.09 -> -8.35 -> -9.04 -> -8.61
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2012, 11:40:30 pm »
Ignore

February 5, 2007: Liberty Park, New Jersey- McGreevey Official Enters the Race

"Today I announce that I am running for President of the United States of America. I speak not only for my candidacy. I speak for a new American century and a new generation of Americans -- both young people and the young at heart. We seek the great restoration of American values and the restoration of our nation's traditional purpose in the world. This is a campaign to unite and empower people everywhere.It is a call to every American, regardless of party, to join together in common purpose and for the common good to save and restore all that it means to be an American. Our President and too many in Washington are giving away our future so that we pass to our children not a flickering flame of freedom but the chain of insurmountable debt. No parent would do this and America must not do this. And so for me the long journey of a Presidential campaign has begun with the people I have met affecting me far more than any affect I may have had on them. And because of that, the reasons why I seek the Presidency have changed. This campaign is about more than issue differences on health care, tax cuts, national security, jobs, the environment and our economy. It is about something as important as our children. It's about who we are as Americans. Here are the words of John Winthrop: "We shall be as one. We must delight in each other, make other's conditions our own; rejoice together, mourn together, labor and suffer together, always living before our eyes our Commission and Community in our work." It is that ideal, the ideal of the American community, that we seek to restore. An America where it is not enough for me to want health care for my family but the obligation, and responsibility of every one of us as American citizens to insure that each one of us has health care for our families. An America where it is not enough for me to want good public schools and a better life for my children but an obligation, and a responsibility as citizens to insure that every child in America may go to a good public school and have the opportunity of a better life. An America where it is not enough to protect my rights under the law but where it is a duty and an obligation for each of us as Americans to make sure every American is equal under the law. An America where it is not enough to proclaim the words freedom, self-government, and democracy, but where it is a duty and a responsibility to participate together in common purpose with the sacrifice required of each of us to give those words meaning. You have the power to reclaim our nation's destiny. You have the power to rid Washington of the politics of money. You have the power to make right as important as might. You have the power to give Americans a reason to vote again. You have the power to restore our nation to fiscal sanity and bring jobs back to our people. You have the power to fulfill Harry Truman's dream and bring health insurance to every American. You have the power to give us a foreign policy consistent with American values again. You have the power to take back the Democratic Party.You have the power to take our country back. And we have the power to take the White House back in 2008".

Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2012, 11:41:34 pm »
Ignore

Meanwhile Back on the Ranch...

By April of 2007 eleven Republican's have announced their candidacy for the Presidency. Those that have announced include Arizona Sen. John McCain, California Rep. Duncan Hunter, Former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson, Former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Texas Rep. Ron Paul, Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo, Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback, Former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore and Former ECO-SOC Ambassador Alan Keyes. Many pundits expect Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson to enter the race later in the year.



National Republican Primary- Gallup April 2007 Poll

Rudy Giuliani 35%
John McCain 22%
Fred Thompson 10%
Mitt Romney 9%
Newt Gingrich 7%
Jim Gilmore 2%
Mike Huckabee 2%
Ron Paul 2%
Tommy Thompson 1%
Sam Brownback 1%
« Last Edit: March 09, 2012, 11:44:58 pm by HST1948 »Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2012, 11:58:17 pm »
Ignore

The Long Slog to Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and the White House Begins- Spring 2007

Governor McGreevey remains in a consistent fourth place in national, and Iowa polling, but has been shown to be inching up into a distant second place in New Hampshire behind Hillary. McGreevey's staff knows that Hilary's position in New Hampshire is strong, but not impermeable. He also see's Iowa as a great opportunity to come up the middle, like Kerry did in 2004.  The Governor spent the next months balancing his responsibilities in Trenton and traveling across Iowa and New Hampshire.

McGreevey in Debuke, Iowa

McGreevey named New Jersey's two United States Senators, Bob Menendez and John Corzine as his national co-chairs after they endorsed him shortly after his entrance into the race. 

Senator Corzine Endorses McGreevey in February of 2007
   
 
Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2012, 12:48:54 am »
Ignore

June 2007: The Democratic Debates Begin- Signs of McGreevey Gaining

First Democratic Debate Hosted by CNN in New Hampshire on June3rd, 2007

The candidates stayed to basic talking points, no candidates really came across as spectacular or incredibly poor.  McGreevey had some good points and was the first candidate to competently challenge Hillary Clinton in the debate over her vote in favor of the Iraq war. The next debate was held at Howard University in Washington DC by PBS.  At this debate the young Governor again attacked the senators on the stage who votes to the authorization of the Iraq war. Barack Obama tried to take the same line as McGreevey as the anti-Iraq candidate, but it had appeared that he had been beat to the punch by the articulate governor. By the end of June McGreevey has established himself as the Anti-Iraq war, socially liberal, tough on crime, guns and drugs candidate.

McGreevey Taking a strong stance on Iraq and strong debate performances seemed to have helped him in the national and Iowa Caucus polling by the end of June. McGreevey's rise in the polls seems to have cut equally into Obama's, Clinton's, and Edward's support.    

National Gallup 2008 Democratic Primary Poll
Clinton: 29%
Obama: 15%
McGreevey: 14%
Edwards: 10:
Richardson: 4%
Biden: 3%
Dodd: 2%
Kucinich: 1%
Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
Jerseyrules
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2426
United States


View Profile
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2012, 02:17:55 pm »
Ignore

He'd be a good president.

He'd do okay, he'd probably not compromise on civil liberties, so I'd like him for that, but if memory serves he was rather moderate as governor of my home state, even with Democratic majorities in the legislature.  He'd also be able to dull the GOP anti-gay rhetoric Smiley
Logged

Drink Too Much:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=147022.0

Skyrim now, Skyrim tomorrow, Morrowind Forever!

An Empire of Stars and Stripes:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156974.0

Quote
FOOL!  I AM Cathcon!

Endorsements:
Governor: Brown (CA), Corbett (PA), Scott (FL)
House: Emken (CA)
Other: Rob McCoy (CA Assembly)
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2012, 05:21:50 pm »
Ignore

July-September 2007: The Campaign Heats Up

July 23 – A Democratic debate is hosted by YouTube and CNN in Charleston, South Carolina

Jim McGreevey criticizes the President's record on Iraq and the Patriot act, and insists that every person who "stands on this stage and voted for this war and the Patriot act has piled debt upon out children to pay for an unjust war and compromised the fundamental liberties of every American with the overreaching, unregulated, and unconstitutional Patriot act".


August 7 – MSNBC and the AFL-CIO host a Democratic debate over labor issues in Chicago, Illinois.

Dennis Kucinich was seen to have won the debate, but no candidate got any real traction.

August 9 – The Human Rights Campaign sponsors a Democratic forum on LGBT issues in Los Angeles, California.

At this debate the only thing that pundits were talking about was Jim McGreevey being the first, and only candidate, to voice his support for gay marriage.  Some of the other candiates came close, advocating for civil Unions,calling it a state right, or just stating that they are "just not there yet" (John Edwards). McGreevey stated that he believed that "I cannot, as a representative of the people, all of the people, tell a law abiding, tax paying citizen, that the are not entitled to the exact same rights because of who they love". McGreevey also called for the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell and The Defense of Marriage Act, which he called an "unconstitutional scar upon the face of American history".

Polls following the debate showed that McGreevey had surged into second

National End of August Gallup 2008 Democratic Primary Poll

Clinton: 30%
McGreevey: 20%
Obama: 15%
Edwards: 14:
Richardson: 4%
Biden: 2%
Dodd: 2%
Kucinich: 1%

September 26 – New England Cable News, NBC News, Dartmouth College and New Hampshire Public Radio host a Democratic debate at Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire

This debate became Clinton's Waterloo.  With McGreevey steadily rising in the poll, and now only trailing her by single digits, he was more aggressive than ever. McGreevey kept up the attack on all the candidates, especially Hillary on her support of the Iraq war and her vote for the patriot act. Then he got some help from Chris Dodd when he launched an attack on Clinton over her support of Governor Spitzer's proposal to offer drivers licensees to illegal aliens. The rest of the Democratic candidates joined in on what became an eight on one attack.  Hillary was scarred from the attack, although she handled it as best she could.  John Edwards later in the debate attacked McGreevey for his support of gay marriage, to which McGreevey replied, "Mr. Edwards if you believe it is the governments responsibility to deprive a group tax paying American's of the the right to happiness, love, and equal protection under the law, that is your opinion, but I don't believe in an America where the government can tell people who to love and what is good love, I believe in an America that says, out of many we are one!".  

National Gallup End of September2008 Democratic Primary Poll
Clinton: 29%
McGreevey: 25%
Obama: 14%
Edwards: 14:
Richardson: 4%
Biden: 2%
Dodd: 2%
Kucinich: 1%
« Last Edit: March 10, 2012, 05:37:02 pm by HST1948 »Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2012, 09:02:55 pm »
Ignore

Republican Update- September 2007

September 6, 2007- Fred Thompson Announces Cantidacy


McCain falling fast, Giuliani Still Front Runner and Wait for it... Brownback Surging?


John McCain had a tough summer in which he faced severe financial problems, fired over a hundred campaign staffers and publicly considered accepting matching funds. Hindered by sub-par debate performances, McCain has not been able to gain nay traction in recent polling. Thompson's entrance placed him in second place in most polls, and in a turn of events Kansas Senator Sam Brownback began to gain some traction, mainly with the help of Evangelical Christians.  

National Gallup End of September 2008 Republican Primary Poll

Rudy Giuliani 30%
Fred Thompson 22%
Mitt Romney 8%
Sam Brownback 8%
John McCain 7%
Ron Paul 4%
Mike Huckabee 2%
Duncan Hunter 2%
Tom Tancredo 1%
« Last Edit: March 10, 2012, 09:05:55 pm by HST1948 »Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
HST1948
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 537


Political Matrix
E: -4.97, S: -5.30

P

View Profile
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2012, 09:22:21 pm »
Ignore

December 2007- Edward's Scandal Breaks Open

On December 10th, 2007 the Washington Post reveled that John Edwards had been involved in and Extramarital Affair with Rielle Hunter, who was now pregnant with his child.  The scathing report of the Democratic candidates affair revealed that he had had bought Hunter a three million dollar home in North Carolina. Edwards was not available to comment for the next two days, leaving his campaign to do damage control and take the brunt of the media questioning.

 

On December 12, 2007 Edward's addressed reporters from Charlotte, North Carolina admitting the affair had occurred, but denied that the child was his. He apologized for his actions and to his family, and his wife Elizabeth who was not with him at the conference. Edward's announced he would withdraw from the presidential race.  

With Edward's, who was a strong contender in the first caucus state of Iowa, suddenly and unexpectedly out of the race less than a month before Iowa no one knew how this would affect the Democratic primary.  Who would benefit? Did this give McGreevey that opening he desperately needed?
Logged



"I believe we can keep the promise of our founders, the idea that if you’re willing to work hard, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or what you look like or where you love. It doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try.
-Obama
I'm JewCon in name only.
Klecly
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 923
United States


Political Matrix
E: 9.61, S: 6.52

View Profile
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2012, 01:11:25 am »
Ignore

Go Giuliani, and Go Hillary Smiley
Logged

their bastard sons against the wall
Pingvin99
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2366
Estonia


View Profile
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2012, 01:17:32 am »
Ignore

GO PAUL, GO KUCINICH!
Logged

Jerseyrules
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2426
United States


View Profile
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2012, 12:17:27 pm »
Ignore

GO PAUL, GO KUCINICH!

And Rudy!
Logged

Drink Too Much:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=147022.0

Skyrim now, Skyrim tomorrow, Morrowind Forever!

An Empire of Stars and Stripes:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156974.0

Quote
FOOL!  I AM Cathcon!

Endorsements:
Governor: Brown (CA), Corbett (PA), Scott (FL)
House: Emken (CA)
Other: Rob McCoy (CA Assembly)
ChairmanSanchez
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 13137
United States


View Profile
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2012, 01:16:50 pm »
Ignore

Boooooo!
Logged

America's like that hot chick everyone wants, and illegal immigrants are all the nerds that she should say "no" to.
Assemblyman JCL
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3814
United States


View Profile
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2012, 03:02:05 pm »
Ignore

Go Paul and Brownback
Logged

Congressional Races
Jackie Walorski (R/IN-2)
Marlin Stutzman (R/IN-3)
Todd Rokita (R/IN-4)
Chard Reid (Lib/IN-5)
Luke Messer (R/IN-6)
Carlos May (R/IN-7)
Larry Bucshon (R/IN-8)
Todd Young (R/IN-9)
Tom Massie (R/KY-4)
Jerseyrules
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2426
United States


View Profile
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2012, 05:11:06 pm »
Ignore


Under Title IX of the PATRIOT ACT and by Executive Order, we are obligated to support America's Mayor for the presidency.
Logged

Drink Too Much:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=147022.0

Skyrim now, Skyrim tomorrow, Morrowind Forever!

An Empire of Stars and Stripes:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156974.0

Quote
FOOL!  I AM Cathcon!

Endorsements:
Governor: Brown (CA), Corbett (PA), Scott (FL)
House: Emken (CA)
Other: Rob McCoy (CA Assembly)
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Logout

Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines