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« on: March 12, 2012, 10:34:06 PM »
« edited: March 12, 2012, 10:38:19 PM by Joe Republic »

Speaks for itself really:





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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2012, 10:36:50 PM »

You should do an "ABR minus Paul" map instead, though I don't think it would look that different.
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2012, 10:51:49 PM »

Worst. Frontrunner. Ever.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 10:54:26 PM »

You should do an "ABR minus Paul" map instead, though I don't think it would look that different.

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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 10:57:54 PM »

Did he not win a mandate in Arizona?

I see I was wrong. So two mandates, MA + ID. Wow.
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2012, 11:25:08 PM »

You should get hired as a spin doctor Joe, and demand rather high compensation for it. You have the "gift."  Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2012, 11:27:07 PM »

Did he not win a mandate in Arizona?

I see I was wrong. So two mandates, MA + ID. Wow.

You wouldn't consider NV a mandate?
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2012, 11:00:11 PM »
« Edited: March 14, 2012, 01:17:02 PM by Joe Republic »

Updated for AL, MS & HI:





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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2012, 12:00:17 AM »

Here's a map showing the carnage at the county level. Pretty sad.

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2012, 12:30:37 AM »

Amazing red X.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2012, 12:37:39 AM »

Speaks for itself really:





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Virginia needs an * on it.
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2012, 01:32:46 AM »


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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2012, 05:36:17 AM »

I'm not sure how meaningful this stuff actually is
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2012, 05:38:16 AM »

Yeah, Paul shouldn't be counted as an "anti-Romney".
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2012, 12:20:34 PM »

I'm not sure how meaningful this stuff actually is

In the nominee selection process, not a great deal.  But nonetheless I think most people get the point being made.
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2012, 12:27:04 PM »

what if it was Moderates (Romney+Huntsman) vs. Conservatives (Perry+Bachmann+Gingrich+Santorum)
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2012, 12:32:56 PM »

what if it was Moderates (Romney+Huntsman) vs. Conservatives (Perry+Bachmann+Gingrich+Santorum)

What?  No.  Who even cares about that?  Besides, right now we're still in a position of having four candidates in the race; one of whom is the pathetically weak and yet soon to be presumptive nominee, who can thus far command a majority of Republicans behind him in just four states (but would have been three if not for technicalities in VA).
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« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2012, 08:32:20 PM »

After a decent 6 point victory over Romney in Illinois, ABR follows up with a devastating landslide in Louisiana:





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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2012, 09:05:58 PM »

what if it was Moderates (Romney+Huntsman) vs. Conservatives (Perry+Bachmann+Gingrich+Santorum)

What?  No.  Who even cares about that?  Besides, right now we're still in a position of having four candidates in the race; one of whom is the pathetically weak and yet soon to be presumptive nominee, who can thus far command a majority of Republicans behind him in just four states (but would have been three if not for technicalities in VA).

That would be one state, if not for technicalities, in which he won a majority in a primary.

That one state was his home state.

Pathetic.
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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2012, 01:18:53 AM »

There is no "Anybody but Romney" vote. There was an actual "Anybody but Carter" movement in 1976, he did worse than how Romney is projected to do, and yet that still didn't stop him from winning. (Though, he did only win by a small margin when initially Ford seemed very weak, and then went on to lose re-election by a large margin, so perhaps there's some merit in the primary reflecting his weakness).

Still, I wonder about the consistency of people who make the claim that Romney's primary performances show his weakness. They're usually either supporters of his primary opponents (and therefore, assuming they highly rate their favoured candidate's skills, should see Romney's ability to beat them even by a modest margin as evidence of his strength) or are Democrats (who often think Republican primary voters are mostly "crazy", hence Romney's inability to win by large margins against "crazy" opponents should not indicate much.

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« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2012, 02:47:39 AM »

Can somebody make a map: Romney+Paul vs Santorum+Gingrich
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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2012, 11:46:54 AM »

Can somebody make a map: Romney+Paul vs Santorum+Gingrich



Kind of an interesting moderate vs socon split, though the Mormons and Virginia are obviously throwing it off a bit.
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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2012, 01:21:21 PM »

Can somebody make a map: Romney+Paul vs Santorum+Gingrich



Kind of an interesting moderate vs socon split, though the Mormons and Virginia are obviously throwing it off a bit.

this is a more informative map. Lumping all candidates vs. Romney is essentially saying "how many states did Romney get a majority". Well winning with pluralities is what happens in a multi-candidate field.
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« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2012, 04:04:08 PM »

Can somebody make a map: Romney+Paul vs Santorum+Gingrich



Kind of an interesting moderate vs socon split, though the Mormons and Virginia are obviously throwing it off a bit.

this is a more informative map. Lumping all candidates vs. Romney is essentially saying "how many states did Romney get a majority". Well winning with pluralities is what happens in a multi-candidate field.

but but if you're the frontrunner you're weak if you can't win more than the field put together!

Kinda like how Clinton's victories showcased how politically weak he was.
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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2012, 04:16:07 PM »

Can somebody make a map: Romney+Paul vs Santorum+Gingrich



Kind of an interesting moderate vs socon split, though the Mormons and Virginia are obviously throwing it off a bit.

this is a more informative map. Lumping all candidates vs. Romney is essentially saying "how many states did Romney get a majority". Well winning with pluralities is what happens in a multi-candidate field.

but but if you're the frontrunner you're weak if you can't win more than the field put together!

Kinda like how Clinton's victories showcased how politically weak he was.

Clinton had 10 plurality victories, 3 of which were under 40%. He won a majority in 23 states. He lost 18 states total.

Romney has already had 12 plurality victories, 7 of which were under 40%. He won a majority in 4 states. He has already lost 13 states, and will probably eclipse Clinton's number unless Santorum and Gingrich drop out. Romney is much weaker than Clinton was in 1992.
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