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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
Nathan
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« on: March 14, 2012, 06:55:51 PM »

I would assume that Islamic terrorism and killing of US soldiers plays a bigger part in the rise of US anti-Islamism.

I believe you assume correctly, sir.
Verbal sex change operation ;-)

My pardons for the assumption. Quite unfortunately we don't get many of the fairer sex coming to the forum.

That's interesting. How many females do we have here? From the tone and nick names I've seen and responded to, I'm not sure if I remember any of them being women?

One. Before politicus joined, zero.
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2012, 01:20:08 AM »
« Edited: March 20, 2012, 01:24:33 AM by Nathan »

It's generalized hatred of a vague other, since most people haven't ever seen one of them in the flesh.
Sorry, but I'm a bit an antiislamist after I saw this:
http://ottenki-serogo.livejournal.com/191194.html
IN A F^^^KING CHRISTIAN CITY.


Moscow is Christian in the same way that Stockholm is Christian (hint: they're both not Christian).
They are culturally and historically Christian cities. Which is what matters most in this context.

Sorry but I'm a bit of an anti-Christian after seeing this:


IN A F^^KING PAGAN CITY!

Historically, it does not matter what Moscow and Stockholm were. It matters that we're supposed to be living in secular, tolerant societies that allow people to peaceably worship whoever they want in public. If you have a problem with this, you're a probably a bigot or a fundamentalist.
"Secular, tolerant society" is one of the sweet lies that are told us by the socialists. Russia for Russians, Moscow for Moscowits, it is all about. If you do not accept OUR traditions and OUR habits, go back into your Dagestan/Chechnya/whatever-Stan.

Dagestanis and Chechens are also Russians, you see, to say nothing of Tatars, Buryats, Kalmyks, Tuvans, Bashkirs, Circassians, Slavic converts to Islam or Buddhism, Tatar or whatever converts to Christianity, diehards from Birobidzhan, et hoc genus omne, and Moscow is the capital of the Russian Federation, not some fictional 'Christian Russia' that elides everything south or east of Don/Volga. If you didn't want Russia and its capital to be diverse then you shouldn't have expanded out of Muscovy in the first place.
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2012, 01:43:22 AM »

So if the Volga and Asian ethnicities are acceptable, why does one need to kick the Caucasus out? If it's purely economic reasons that seems like a puerile reason to break up one's country and if it's for cultural reasons that seems extremely discriminatory and sketchy.

I don't see what the use of the other part of the idea is. My ancestors on the side that my family name derives from were partly Litvak Jews, partly Great Russians from the area of Lake Peipus, partly Great Russians from the area between the Volga and the Urals, and partly Tartars, so I'm reasonably familiar with the layout of Russia ethnically and culturally, and I just don't see how the '7 Russian Republics' would be divied up.
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2012, 01:55:02 AM »
« Edited: March 20, 2012, 02:00:04 AM by Nathan »

So if the Volga and Asian ethnicities are acceptable, why does one need to kick the Caucasus out? If it's purely economic reasons that seems like a puerile reason to break up one's country and if it's for cultural reasons that seems extremely discriminatory and sketchy.

I don't see what the use of the other part of the idea is. My ancestors on the side that my family name derives from were partly Litvak Jews, partly Great Russians from the area of Lake Peipus, partly Great Russians from the area between the Volga and the Urals, and partly Tartars, so I'm reasonably familiar with the layout of Russia ethnically and culturally, and I just don't see how the '7 Russian Republics' would be divied up.

Is that even possible with the current population distribution? I was under the impression ethnic Russians have a majority basically everywhere except the Caucuses and some enclaves, I'm sure there's a map of this somewhere...

European Russia is pretty much all Great Russian outside, as you said, the Caucasus, with the parts along the Volga and Komi mostly being to the best of my knowledge a question of pluralities rather than majorities, be it for the Great Russians or the republic minorities. Siberia has of course a strip of Great Russians along the railways outside of which everything is native Siberian ethnicities or sparsely populated.

ETA: In the little clump of republics east of Moscow, Tatarstan and Chuvashia have majorities of their titular group, Mari El and Bashkortostan are about tied, and Mordovia and Udmurtia have Great Russian majorities. Komi is also majority Great Russian. Karelia is under ten per cent its titular group. The republics with clear majorities of their titular group or groups are, in descending order of concentration, Chechnya, Ingushetia, Dagestan, Tuva, Kabardino-Balkaria, Chuvashia, North Ossetia-Alania, Kalmykia, Tatarstan, and Karachay-Cherkessia. Sakha is 49.9% Yakut. Mari El and Bashkortostan have no clear majority ethnic group. The majority Great Russian republics are, in descending order of concentration, Karelia, Khakassia, Buryatia, Komi, Adygea, Udmurtia, Altai, and Mordovia.
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