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« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2012, 07:17:10 PM »

lol JJ
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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2012, 10:37:38 AM »

Interesting.

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« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2012, 10:50:15 AM »

Missouri is not going to be a good place for Mittens. He will get presumably the St. Louis metro area, and maybe Cape Giraudoux, and that is probably about it. The rest of the state will be grim.
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« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2012, 11:44:03 AM »

Missouri is not going to be a good place for Mittens. He will get presumably the St. Louis metro area, and maybe Cape Giraudoux, and that is probably about it. The rest of the state will be grim.

Santorum carried handily (20 points or more) St. Louis and its suburbs, so I wouldn't hold my breath even there.
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« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2012, 11:54:56 AM »

Missouri is not going to be a good place for Mittens. He will get presumably the St. Louis metro area, and maybe Cape Giraudoux, and that is probably about it. The rest of the state will be grim.

Santorum carried handily (20 points or more) St. Louis and its suburbs, so I wouldn't hold my breath even there.

Yes, although that beauty contest race wasn't contested, and caucuses are strange beasts. But you may be right. We shall see.
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« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2012, 03:36:26 PM »

So that means no predictions for Missouri at all? Dave should've just taken predictions on the beauty contest primary.

Dave did.  A few days before the beauty contest, Dave changed the date the Missouri predictions were locked in to that of the beauty constent becaus ehe learned there would be no results from the caucus.

The MO predictions still says 3-17 on the predictions entry page.
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« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2012, 01:04:08 PM »

sounds like chaos in Mo, at least according to twitter

#mocaucus

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« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2012, 01:13:34 PM »

Missouri is not going to be a good place for Mittens. He will get presumably the St. Louis metro area, and maybe Cape Giraudoux, and that is probably about it. The rest of the state will be grim.

Santorum carried handily (20 points or more) St. Louis and its suburbs, so I wouldn't hold my breath even there.

Yes, although that beauty contest race wasn't contested, and caucuses are strange beasts. But you may be right. We shall see.

Yeah, but it sounds like Mittens isn't contesting the caucus either.
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« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2012, 01:16:57 PM »

Here are some twitter reports:

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In Platte county, there seems to be an even split between nominating a Romney slate of delegates and a Santorum/Gingrich slate.
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« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2012, 01:39:35 PM »

Looks like the Santorum slate won in Platte County. If Romney's losing places like Platte, then he's probably not going to get many delegates out of this caucus at all.
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« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2012, 02:18:38 PM »

The St. Charles County caucus has been cancelled.

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« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2012, 02:26:44 PM »
« Edited: March 17, 2012, 02:30:21 PM by realisticidealist »

Highly unofficial tallies I've gathered from Twitter and other websites. Note that the vote totals and delegate totals don't all come from the same places, plus there is a natural selection bias. Most of the totals also come from St. Louis County:

Votes:
670 Santorum
665 Paul
473 Uncommitted Unity Slates (Anti-Paul)
380 Romney
40 Gingrich
6 Uncommitted

Delegates:
92 Paul
65 Romney
63 Santorum
3 Gingrich
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« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2012, 02:29:04 PM »

lol republican caucuses
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« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2012, 02:31:53 PM »

It's ridiculous that the MO GOP isn't going to report the results of this. The Democratic party reported the delegates totals for all of their caucuses/conventions.
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« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2012, 02:40:19 PM »

The St. Charles County caucus has been cancelled.

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Republicans stealing elections in America? I'm guessing whoever wrote that wasn't paying any attention in 2000.
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« Reply #40 on: March 17, 2012, 02:57:50 PM »

Looking like a decent haul for Ron Paul. Should get a few delegates unless they conspire to shut us out, although after today's fiasco I'm sure at the next levels of the caucus they'll just want to get it over with and won't bother.
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« Reply #41 on: March 17, 2012, 03:29:34 PM »

Looking like a decent haul for Ron Paul. Should get a few delegates unless they conspire to shut us out, although after today's fiasco I'm sure at the next levels of the caucus they'll just want to get it over with and won't bother.

Based on the fact that Anti-Paul "Uncommitted Unity Slates" apparently now exist, it looks like the GOP is beginning to wise up to the Paulistas' tactics.
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« Reply #42 on: March 17, 2012, 03:33:33 PM »

Updated results:

Votes:
700 Paul
686 Santorum
473 Uncommitted Unity Slates (Anti-Paul)
410 Romney
46 Gingrich
6 Uncommitted

Delegates:
116 Paul
92 Santorum
71 Romney
4 Gingrich
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« Reply #43 on: March 17, 2012, 03:37:21 PM »

Confusion leads to no Santorum victory.  A chance for Santorum to gain some momentum is gone.
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« Reply #44 on: March 17, 2012, 03:40:33 PM »

Confusion leads to no Santorum victory.  A chance for Santorum to gain some momentum is gone.

There was never going to be a winner declared. 99.9% of people will ignore this contest.
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« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2012, 03:41:02 PM »

Obviously caucuses have different turnouts than primaries, but wow. Santorum got 55% in the primary, while Paul only got 12%.
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« Reply #46 on: March 17, 2012, 03:42:45 PM »

I would be happy if Mittens can get 15 delegates out of this mess.
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« Reply #47 on: March 17, 2012, 03:43:49 PM »

Obviously caucuses have different turnouts than primaries, but wow. Santorum got 55% in the primary, while Paul only got 12%.

The vast, vast majority of rural counties have not been represented in the totals I've listed.
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« Reply #48 on: March 17, 2012, 03:46:54 PM »

Obviously caucuses have different turnouts than primaries, but wow. Santorum got 55% in the primary, while Paul only got 12%.
The thing is though that this is a caucus, which favours Paul, it has received very little media attention, which favours Paul, and Paul didn't try in the primary, because he had Minnesota to focus on.
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« Reply #49 on: March 17, 2012, 03:47:32 PM »

Yeah, most of the counties I'm seeing on Twitter should be strong Romney/Paul counties. The fact that Santorum is doing this well in urban/suburban counties bodes very well for him. If he can get most of Missouri's 52 delegates, that would be a pretty big victory for him.
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