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realisticidealist
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 03:59:20 pm »
Romney and Paul supporters just banded together to defeat Santorum in Greene County.
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 04:03:50 pm »
Quote from: realisticidealist on March 17, 2012, 03:59:20 pm
Romney and Paul supporters just banded together to defeat Santorum in Greene County.
According to a poster on twitter Paul got 65 Delegates, Romney 40 Delegates and Santorum 6 delegates.
4th largest county in the state. Santorum won the non binding primary with 54% of the vote, he got 5.5% of the delegates.
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Minnesota Mike
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 04:09:23 pm »
If you can believe the twitter reports Paul and Romney have been teaming up all over the state to kick Santorum's @ss.
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 04:10:46 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on March 17, 2012, 03:37:21 pm
Confusion leads to no Santorum victory. A chance for Santorum to gain some momentum is gone.
lol. There's no straw poll anyway. Nobody cares about this other than inside baseball fanatics.
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realisticidealist
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 04:19:51 pm »
Delegate update:
192 Paul
151 Santorum
141 Romney
11 Uncommitted
4 Gingrich
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Last Edit: March 17, 2012, 04:25:39 pm by realisticidealist
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 04:33:33 pm »
Here's some delegate total results I've found posted on the Ron Paul Forums, don't know whether they've been mentioned/ counted here yet.
Franklin County: Paul 24, Romney 16
Jasper County: Santorum 25, Paul 11, Romney 7, Newt 1
Stone County: Santorum 15, Paul 1
Stoddard County: majority of delegates for Paul
Warren County: no Paul delegates
Clay County: no Paul delegates
Grundy County: all Paul delegates
Nodaway County: 6 Paul, 2 Romney
Boone County: Paul 48, Romney 5
Lawrence County: Paul 3, Santorum most of the rest (awarded proportionately from primary result)
Atchison County: 1 Paul, 1 Romney, 1 Santorum
St. Francois County: Paul 4, others ?
Also, for St. Charles County, before the police showed up (there was even a SWAT team and helicopter!) a Romney + Paul coalition was on the verge of electing a coalition slate of mostly Romney supporters.
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realisticidealist
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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Reply #56 on:
March 17, 2012, 04:34:36 pm »
Quote from: Bacon King, VP on March 17, 2012, 04:33:33 pm
Here's some delegate total results I've found posted on the Ron Paul Forums, don't know whether they've been mentioned/ counted here yet.
Franklin County: Paul 24, Romney 16
Jasper County: Santorum 25, Paul 11, Romney 7, Newt 1
Stone County: Santorum 15, Paul 1
Stoddard County: majority of delegates for Paul
Warren County: no Paul delegates
Clay County: no Paul delegates
Grundy County: all Paul delegates
Nodaway County: 6 Paul, 2 Romney
Boone County: Paul 48, Romney 5
Lawrence County: Paul 3, Santorum most of the rest (awarded proportionately from primary result)
Atchison County: 1 Paul, 1 Romney, 1 Santorum
St. Francois County: Paul 4, others ?
Also, for St. Charles County, before the police showed up (there was even a SWAT team and helicopter!) a Romney + Paul coalition was on the verge of electing a coalition slate of mostly Romney supporters.
I have more complete spreadsheets (relatively) that I'm working on.
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 04:36:14 pm »
Quote from: Bacon King, VP on March 17, 2012, 04:33:33 pm
Also, for St. Charles County,
before the police showed up (there was even a SWAT team and helicopter!)
a Romney + Paul coalition was on the verge of electing a coalition slate of mostly Romney supporters.
Wut.
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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Reply #58 on:
March 17, 2012, 05:04:50 pm »
Quote from: Bacon King, VP on March 17, 2012, 04:33:33 pm
Here's some delegate total results I've found posted on the Ron Paul Forums, don't know whether they've been mentioned/ counted here yet.
Franklin County: Paul 24, Romney 16
Jasper County: Santorum 25, Paul 11, Romney 7, Newt 1
Stone County: Santorum 15, Paul 1
Stoddard County: majority of delegates for Paul
Warren County: no Paul delegates
Clay County: no Paul delegates
Grundy County: all Paul delegates
Nodaway County: 6 Paul, 2 Romney
Boone County: Paul 48, Romney 5
Lawrence County: Paul 3, Santorum most of the rest (awarded proportionately from primary result)
Atchison County: 1 Paul, 1 Romney, 1 Santorum
St. Francois County: Paul 4, others ?
Also, for St. Charles County, before the police showed up (there was even a SWAT team and helicopter!) a Romney + Paul coalition was on the verge of electing a coalition slate of mostly Romney supporters.
There are going to have to re-hold the St. Charles County caucus. It is an important county. You can't let the losing candidate benefit from his supporters lawless antics. Or maybe, they will just seat the Paul/Mittens delegates. This cannot stand.
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 05:07:02 pm »
Quote from: Minnesota Mike on March 17, 2012, 04:09:23 pm
If you can believe the twitter reports Paul and Romney have been teaming up all over the state to kick Santorum's @ss.
Which suggests where the Paul delegates, or most of them, will be going at the convention, if Mittens needs them. Mittens can something mean about the Federal Reserve to make them feel better about themselves (I tend to put Federal Reserve bashers into the kook category in a hurry).
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realisticidealist
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 05:16:15 pm »
Delegates (30/142):
202 Paul
184 Santorum
149 Romney
26 Uncommitted
8 Gingrich
Votes (13/142):
1163 Paul
1155 Santorum
479 Uncommitted
440 Romney
66 Gingrich
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Last Edit: March 17, 2012, 05:25:30 pm by realisticidealist
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 05:25:10 pm »
Quote from: realisticidealist on March 17, 2012, 03:40:33 pm
Quote from: J. J. on March 17, 2012, 03:37:21 pm
Confusion leads to no Santorum victory. A chance for Santorum to gain some momentum is gone.
There was never going to be a winner declared. 99.9% of people will ignore this contest.
Probably, but there was still a slight chance that someone
might
have gained some momentum. This eliminates that chance.
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 06:10:57 pm »
Welcome
to the St. Charles County caucus - our "participatory" democracy in action.
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realisticidealist
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 06:15:39 pm »
Quote from: Torie on March 17, 2012, 06:10:57 pm
Welcome
to the St. Charles County caucus - our "participatory" democracy in action.
Paul supporters sure are annoying.
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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Reply #64 on:
March 17, 2012, 07:50:49 pm »
Delegates (35/142):
254 Santorum
215 Paul
172 Romney
33 Uncommitted
8 Gingrich
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 08:01:33 pm »
Quote from: Torie on March 17, 2012, 06:10:57 pm
Welcome
to the St. Charles County caucus - our "participatory" democracy in action.
Fortunately, the Paul delegates are totally inept.
Not that chairman is much better.
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J. J.
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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Reply #66 on:
March 17, 2012, 08:05:12 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on March 17, 2012, 08:01:33 pm
Quote from: Torie on March 17, 2012, 06:10:57 pm
Welcome
to the St. Charles County caucus - our "participatory" democracy in action.
Fortunately, the Paul delegates are totally inept.
Not that chairman is much better.
What's actually happening there? I'm not totally getting it.
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Matthew
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 08:12:27 pm »
Hopefully Paul and Romney can get some of these delegates!
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J. J.
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Quote from: I'm Mitt Romney and I like grits on March 17, 2012, 08:05:12 pm
Quote from: J. J. on March 17, 2012, 08:01:33 pm
Quote from: Torie on March 17, 2012, 06:10:57 pm
Welcome
to the St. Charles County caucus - our "participatory" democracy in action.
Fortunately, the Paul delegates are totally inept.
Not that chairman is much better.
What's actually happening there? I'm not totally getting it.
The Paul folks were trying to get their way, and going about it badly.
What they were trying to do is object to the chair's ruling to ban recording devices (which he probably doesn't have the power to do). You can do it by raising a point of order, and putting the appeal from the floor if necessary. They didn't do that.
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realisticidealist
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 08:40:37 pm »
The areas we have numbers for voted 55.15% Santorum, 26.23% Romney, 11.35% Paul, and 3.88% Uncom in the primary. Santorum is down almost 18% compared to then, Romney is down about 1%, Paul is up just over 20%, and Uncom is up less than 1%. If these patterns held across the state, the final numbers would be:
Santorum 37.27%
Paul 32.27%
Romney 24.28%
Uncom 4.86%
Gingrich 1.18%
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Matthew
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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March 17, 2012, 08:51:03 pm »
Quote from: realisticidealist on March 17, 2012, 08:40:37 pm
The areas we have numbers for voted 55.15% Santorum, 26.23% Romney, 11.35% Paul, and 3.88% Uncom in the primary. Santorum is down almost 18% compared to then, Romney is down about 1%, Paul is up just over 20%, and Uncom is up less than 1%. If these patterns held across the state, the final numbers would be:
Santorum 37.27%
Paul 32.27%
Romney 24.28%
Uncom 4.86%
Gingrich 1.18%
So a rough delegate estimate would look kind of like this?
Santorum 19-20
Paul 16
Romney 12
Uncommitted 2
Gingrich 0
Of course if this holds throughout the state. They will also be elected within the county and state conventions offically. So this may change.
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March 17, 2012, 09:42:02 pm »
Delegates (38/142):
292 Santorum
223 Paul
176 Romney
33 Uncommitted
8 Gingrich
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March 17, 2012, 10:28:11 pm »
I'm taking it that this is another epic fail in democracy?
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on March 17, 2012, 10:28:11 pm
I'm taking it that this is another epic fail in democracy?
What can be more democratic then "No filming" and "SWAT Teams" to back it up with?
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Re: Missouri caucuses won't include a straw poll
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Quote from: Matthew on March 17, 2012, 08:12:27 pm
Hopefully Paul and Romney can get some of these delegates!
Your are blind to what is happening. This is the same feces as "pro-life, pro-family" in Lousiana, and the deal in West Virginia in 2008.
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