Obamacare cost estimates double to over $2T per decade
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« on: March 14, 2012, 09:50:25 AM »

no surprise here...and expect the estimates to go far higher in the next year or two

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/cbo-obamacare-cost-176-trillion-over-10-yrs/425831
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 12:25:55 PM »


Back when Congress was debating Obamacare, I told everyone that the CBO was drastically low-balling the costs of Obamacare.

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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 02:12:31 PM »


That's 1.76 trillion, not 176 trillion, jmfcst.

And of course, its great - that's only 176 billion per year.  Well worth it and can be put to rights by slashing the military and taxing the rich.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 02:18:50 PM »

Certainly better spent than on bombs.
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2012, 02:22:25 PM »

This is a grossly misleading headline. First of all, the cost to the government actually fell by $40 billion. The "doubling" is entirely an artifact of the CBO using more years in this estimate than the previous estimate, as well as changing the time frame from this estimate to the previous estimate. In other words, this estimate can't be compared with previous estimates.

The full story:

"The big picture takeaway is that due mostly to weaker economic projections, the CBO now projects that more people will be obtaining insurance through Medicaid than it estimated a year ago at a greater cost to the government, but fewer people will be getting insurance through their employers or the health care law’s new subsidized insurance exchanges. Overall spending will be higher than estimated a year ago, but increased revenue from penalties and taxes will more than offset this. Also interesting: CBO now expects two million fewer people to be covered as a result of the health care law than previously projected.

It’s worth keeping in mind that what the CBO did today was update its forecasts for the cost of expanding insurance coverage under the health care law. That represents, by far, the bulk of the spending in the legislation, but it doesn’t constitute a full rescoring of the law or a revised deficit estimate. That would have to include estimates for all the taxes, Medicare cuts and other spending in the law. Also, the $1.76 trillion cited above is for the years 2013 through 2022, but if we want to compare changes to last year’s estimates, we have to use the comparable years of 2012 through 2021. (Estimates for 2022 only became available today.)

The CBO now projects that from 2012 through 2021 the federal government will spend $168 billion more on Medicaid than it expected last year, $97 billion less on subsidies for people to purchase insurance on government-run exchanges and $20 billion less on tax credits to small employers.  That works out to a $51 billion increase in the gross cost of expanding coverage from what the CBO estimated a year ago. However, the CBO also expects the federal government to collect more revenue from penalties on individuals and employers, as well as other taxes. These revenue increases will more than offset the spending increases, according to the CBO, so it now expects the cost of Obamacare during those years to be $48 billion lower."

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/cbo-boosts-its-obamacare-medicaid-cost-estimate/425966

Obamacare was found to reduce the deficit when it first passed, and today's estimates only reinforce those conclusions. So not only is the deficit reduced than what it would be, but 30 million more people are covered who would not be. The true 'cost' of Obamacare is not what the government spends on Medicare and the like, it is the fact that the mandate is an effective tax hike. The cost isn't added to the deficit, but it is borne by taxpayers. Ironically, the opponents of Obamacare who are trying to get it struck down by SCOTUS are arguing that it's not a tax. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 07:32:23 AM »

This is a grossly misleading headline

Its deliberately intended to be, Beet, given that its the Washington Examimer
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2012, 04:07:34 PM »

Republicans fail at reading comprehension. Again.
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 04:44:15 PM »

Republicans fail at reading comprehension. Again.

Not so much fail as reading comprehension as a willful determination to destort facts. That has long since been their prefered method of campaigning.
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2012, 03:20:29 AM »

And here I was, thinking that "revenue enhancements" didn't have to do with the "cost" of anything.*  But then my reading comprehension must be insufficient to figure that one out.  I was under the impression that Obama has never raised taxes?  Or is a "revenue enhancement" not a tax?**

*They create a substantial cost in the form of deadweight loss, but brick walls and all that.

**Except when it is a tax!
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2012, 06:06:32 AM »

Would be better spent than on bombs.
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