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« on: March 14, 2012, 01:34:33 pm »
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the knee-jerk answer would have to be "of course" but it feels very weird in this case for some reason, probably because Biden is about 3rd or 4th on everyone's list of frontrunners
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 03:37:09 pm »
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Biden was born in 1942. Do the math. He also hasn't gone out of his way to give a presidential vibe.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 04:14:04 pm »
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Quote from: memphis on March 14, 2012, 03:37:09 pm
Biden was born in 1942. Do the math. He also hasn't gone out of his way to give a presidential vibe.
What is wrong with having been born in 1942???
I understand what you mean however- 74 may be just a bit too old for a first-time Presidential nominee
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 04:23:47 pm »
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not meaningfully older than McCain2008 or Reagan1984 (and, factoring in the Vietcong and Dementia, his 'real age' could be considered younger).


also when he has been confronted with the question Biden has not offered anything approximating an express denial.
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2012, 09:03:11 pm »
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Obama would throw Biden under the bus in a heart beat and not care one bit. It's the kind of person he is. Remember he supported higher gas prices and now wants them to go down. When asked about it, he mentioned it being an election year, but nothing else. Obama only thinks of himself and will support whichever candidate it is that helps his fame continue. He can't get enough attention. Besides, Biden was picked by the elders in the Democratic Party as a safe bet and balance for Obama's wild eyed liberal ideology. Let us not underestimate Biden's ideology either, but by talking about foreign policy, he attracts some people who aren't necessarily registered Democrats.
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 10:50:13 am »
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the problem with throwing him under the bus is that he'd still have to work alongside of him for 18-24 months.
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2012, 11:12:34 am »
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Obama is not going to throw Biden under the bus. Why would he? Obama will stay out the primary campaign until one candidate has won. If it is Biden, he will fully support him.

Obama and Biden have a close relationship.

But Joe Biden probably won't run. He knows he is to old too win and that the party will have better candidates in 2016. Biden is not stupid.
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 11:22:53 am »
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Obama is not going to throw Biden under the bus. Why would he? Obama will stay out the primary campaign until one candidate has won. If it is Biden, he will fully support him.



First, you have assume that Obama is reelected.  If he isn't, he might not support Biden.  Further, Biden might not want that support.

Assuming Obama is reelected, there will not be anything until after the nomination is secured.
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2012, 11:25:59 am »
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Yes, I assume Obama is reelected. If Obama is not reelected, Biden will be a non-factor in 2016. As sitting VP he might have a shot at the nomination, as former VP, nobody will care about him.
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2012, 02:26:11 pm »
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Remember he supported higher gas prices and now wants them to go down.
No. When was that?
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2012, 07:42:41 pm »
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Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 14, 2012, 09:03:11 pm
Remember he supported higher gas prices and now wants them to go down.
No. When was that?
It was in an email from his uncle Bubba. I'm sure he will be happy to forward it to you.
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2012, 08:19:15 pm »
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Tmi_fpUHs

Here you go smartasses. If you take "gradual adjustment" to mean anything other than higher prices, then you are not worth debating and should stay home on election day.
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2012, 09:05:31 pm »
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Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 15, 2012, 08:19:15 pm
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Here you go smartasses. If you take "gradual adjustment" to mean anything other than higher prices, then you are not worth debating and should stay home on election day.

He would have preferred a gradual adjustment to what? Have the increases not been gradual? We didn't go to bed one night with gas at $2 and wake up with them at $4. Saying Obama wants higher gas prices is hackishness of the highest order.
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2012, 10:28:10 pm »
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Why would Obama be obligated to support anyone?  I assume he'll stay officially neutral in the primary.  Isn't that what both Reagan and Clinton did in 1988 and 2000 respectively?
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2012, 10:53:02 pm »
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Quote from: memphis on March 16, 2012, 09:05:31 pm
hackishness of the highest order.

Well, yeah -

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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2012, 10:45:01 pm »
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Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 15, 2012, 08:19:15 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Tmi_fpUHs

Here you go smartasses. If you take "gradual adjustment" to mean anything other than higher prices, then you are not worth debating and should stay home on election day.

Wow, insulting us for no reason; I'm sure that you're going to be reasonable in this discussion.
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