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« on: March 14, 2012, 03:38:45 PM »

after discussing with a few confidants I decided that my greatest opportunity to make a positive contribution to the Latter-Day Saint movement would be to work within the LDS church.  here are screenshots of conversations I had with online missionaries.




I guess they are under orders not to discuss Romney/politics.
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 03:41:56 PM »

are you ever going to get around to comparing Mormon doctrine with the bible?
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 03:43:19 PM »

are you ever going to get around to comparing Mormon doctrine with the bible?

hopefully by June, yes.  however my attraction to Mormonism is best defined as personal/sociological rather than theological.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 03:51:32 PM »

Even on non-religious grounds, I'd strongly suggest you reconsider. It seems like you're merely stringing these people along. Unless you're completely up front with them about your intentions (in which case I'm certain a local ward won't baptize you), this is hardly admirable. If you're concerned about your own integrity, deceiving people who are trying to help you (even if it's in a horribly misguided way) probably isn't the best thing to do.
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2012, 03:58:25 PM »

hopefully by June, yes.  however my attraction to Mormonism is best defined as personal/sociological rather than theological.

so, for personal/sociological reasons, you're going to subject your unknowledgeable self to a bunch of brain washing before you decide to seek knowledge?! 

and what are the personal/sociological reasons you're attracted to Mormonism?
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2012, 04:00:24 PM »

so, for personal/sociological reasons, you're going to subject your unknowledgeable self to a bunch of brain washing before you decide to seek knowledge?! 

Sounds like what we do to our children with regards to religion...
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2012, 04:01:35 PM »

so, for personal/sociological reasons, you're going to subject your unknowledgeable self to a bunch of brain washing before you decide to seek knowledge?! 

Sounds like what we do to our children with regards to religion...

fyi, I don't use brain washing techniques
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2012, 04:05:11 PM »

so, for personal/sociological reasons, you're going to subject your unknowledgeable self to a bunch of brain washing before you decide to seek knowledge?! 
Sounds like what we do to our children with regards to religion...
fyi, I don't use brain washing techniques

I disagree on a basic level, but I predict this conversation going nowhere so I'll leave it at that.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2012, 04:07:36 PM »

already posted, but this part of my testament answers to the "personal/theological" most directly.

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2012, 04:12:45 PM »

To be honest, while Tweed's testimony there certainly isn't the 'right' (or 'ideal', whatever that means) set of reasons to get religion, it's certainly not as 'wrong' as many I could name either.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2012, 04:13:50 PM »

so all this joining the LDS is about serving some self-admitted fantasy? as if living a fantasy is better than living life itself?

ok, seriously, that is not a life.




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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2012, 04:17:16 PM »

it's about living a narrative dude.  we all live narratives, and I contend that we are incapable of gauging their objective 'truth'; we have our frames, through which we interpret events, and walk through.  now.  organized religion, LDS of course included, is a 'pre-packaged' frame: it is a relatively definite sense of coordinates, reference points.  certainly more definitive that I would be able to construct on my own.  this is the 'crutch' that self-affirming atheists speak of; the need or desire to 'purchase' what's already been constructed, and plug it into one's own life.
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2012, 04:36:36 PM »

it's about living a narrative dude.  we all live narratives, and I contend that we are incapable of gauging their objective 'truth'; we have our frames, through which we interpret events, and walk through.  now.  organized religion, LDS of course included, is a 'pre-packaged' frame: it is a relatively definite sense of coordinates, reference points.  certainly more definitive that I would be able to construct on my own.  this is the 'crutch' that self-affirming atheists speak of; the need or desire to 'purchase' what's already been constructed, and plug it into one's own life.
then what was all this talk about the book of Mormon being the word of God?
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2012, 04:39:21 PM »

you'd have to refer me to the context in which I said that in order for me to comment.
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2012, 04:45:16 PM »

you'd have to refer me to the context in which I said that in order for me to comment.

my fault, I forgot the context of your stated beliefs:

I was reporting from the annals of Mormon theology, not necessarily from personal belief.

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now, don't get me wrong, I like you and all, but you're really not serving this forum or yourself any purpose with all this Mormon stuff you yourself don't believe in
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2012, 04:52:48 PM »

I can understand the latter part, but how is this detrimental to the Forum?
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2012, 07:57:00 PM »

hopefully by June, yes.  however my attraction to Mormonism is best defined as personal/sociological rather than theological.

so, for personal/sociological reasons, you're going to subject your unknowledgeable self to a bunch of brain washing before you decide to seek knowledge?! 

and what are the personal/sociological reasons you're attracted to Mormonism?

How ignorant and intolerant. You don't find Christianity brainwashing? I'm a Christian for social and cultural reasons and even adhere to no meet on Friday during lent. However, that's only socially though. There's nothing wrong with being part of a religion if one gets something out of it.
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